Youngsters are not into cars....
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Joratk said:
I'm a total petrolhead and love Porsche cars. Would pick one over any Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston, etc. However, on both occasions I've tried to spark a conversation with owners they just weren't having it.
One scowled at me. He was sitting in a nice 993 Carrera (with a Porsche Club GB sticker on the rear window) and when I mentioned how I love 993s he replied "NO, its a NINE ELEVEN" - errr, yeah mate, I know... Such arrogance.
So, perhaps elders aren't doing all they can to get youngsters into cars and more specifically Porsche?
Don't let one idiot tarnish your view. One scowled at me. He was sitting in a nice 993 Carrera (with a Porsche Club GB sticker on the rear window) and when I mentioned how I love 993s he replied "NO, its a NINE ELEVEN" - errr, yeah mate, I know... Such arrogance.
So, perhaps elders aren't doing all they can to get youngsters into cars and more specifically Porsche?
I am a young person (22 YO), and still interested in cars. The reason I wouldn’t be interested in your 991 is mostly down to price. Correct me if I am wrong, but you need £50K to get into a 991, and that’s a higher mileage entry level model. This is more than most young people can afford to spend on a car.
I have friends who are huge fans of Porsche, but at their age can’t afford a 991 so settle for a Cayman instead.
Insurance isn’t a problem in my experience. If you’ve got the ability to afford a new Porsche you can afford to insure it. I pay around 6% of my garages total value in insurance costs. If we take a new Carrera S at £80K that would mean roughly £5K in insurance costs, which unless you’re in a high rated postcode shouldn’t be anywhere near that cost.
The friends I have who have the ability to own a 991 aren’t interested in the models that are accessible to them; instead aspiring to GT3 and R models, that are out of reach due to cost. Most favour BMW M3/4s or Mercedes C63 AMGs, or if not interested in performance, Range Rover Sports.
Telsas, as a lot of posters have mentioned are what young people now aspire to own, don’t register on my radar or that of many of my friends either. I personally find them too clinical verging on boring, meaning they have no appeal. A fine tool I’m sure, but not a toy which is what I consider a 991 to be.
I have friends who are huge fans of Porsche, but at their age can’t afford a 991 so settle for a Cayman instead.
Insurance isn’t a problem in my experience. If you’ve got the ability to afford a new Porsche you can afford to insure it. I pay around 6% of my garages total value in insurance costs. If we take a new Carrera S at £80K that would mean roughly £5K in insurance costs, which unless you’re in a high rated postcode shouldn’t be anywhere near that cost.
The friends I have who have the ability to own a 991 aren’t interested in the models that are accessible to them; instead aspiring to GT3 and R models, that are out of reach due to cost. Most favour BMW M3/4s or Mercedes C63 AMGs, or if not interested in performance, Range Rover Sports.
Telsas, as a lot of posters have mentioned are what young people now aspire to own, don’t register on my radar or that of many of my friends either. I personally find them too clinical verging on boring, meaning they have no appeal. A fine tool I’m sure, but not a toy which is what I consider a 991 to be.
Cars are becoming like watches - indulgent. Nobody needs a watch these days, let alone a £500K piece on your wrist. However, discerning and knowledgable people are into the technical brilliance and leading edge designs of both. Your watch and car are probably going to last longer than your disposable phone too 
where do you see 20 years old youngsters in this commercial? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaGwC4it9t8
I used to go to OPC east london for servicing and etc...met a few 991 & 997 owners out there, during new car launches and events, but none of them youngsters to be honest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaGwC4it9t8
I used to go to OPC east london for servicing and etc...met a few 991 & 997 owners out there, during new car launches and events, but none of them youngsters to be honest.
HugoFastmann said:
You can't try sell your 991 to some under 20's who aren't interested then make the sweeping assumption that youngsters are not into cars. There's some serious bias in that assumption.
These were males between 27 and 33 working in finance. High disposables and at a age you have little obligations typically.But the fact none of them even own a car says it all to me! I will tone it down in saying hardly any youngsters are into cars 
911 one day.anonymous said:
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Would like to add a small correction. The low volume examples being purchased by the wealthy established middle ages to be garaged and put on a shelf to gather dust. The Casio's, Citizens, Vauxhalls and Subaru's of the world are still around to be purchased and actually used by the young.
Not being into speed, drifting, offensively loud exhausts and go faster stripes is not the same thing as not being into cars. The biggest thrill about cars when I was young was the freedom. Like getting your own place, your own job etc. Freedom to go where you went, when you wanted, listening to the music you loved and above all with whom you wanted. The car was a massive social tool. Brilliant memories built on life experiences with others. Not moronically going up and down a high street irritating people with a stupid exhaust note, or 'getting sideways' in a rep mobile which is the great obsession of the motoring media. A recent issue of CAR magazine had several articles on supercars all nicely photographed in stationary poses while in their article on a boggo Beemer 5 series diesel, we get the full 'back end out' cornering picture. I mean seriously! How ludicrous is that?
Just like duelling at dawn and a host of other old school attitudes became absurd and died out over time, a lot of the narrow focus 'performance' orientated car culture starts to look more and more 'medallion man' naff, especially in a modern urban society. Plus there is a particularly off-putting 'classic car snob' culture evident in some quarters as well which will hopefully be soon ridiculed to the point of extinction.
Young people are out there enjoying their cars and the fun and freedom you can have with them whether that's a Porsche Macan, a Tesla or a beat up Citroen Picasso. Most of them simply enjoy them in many different ways to that one single paradigm beloved of the likes of CAR, EVO and so on.
Just like duelling at dawn and a host of other old school attitudes became absurd and died out over time, a lot of the narrow focus 'performance' orientated car culture starts to look more and more 'medallion man' naff, especially in a modern urban society. Plus there is a particularly off-putting 'classic car snob' culture evident in some quarters as well which will hopefully be soon ridiculed to the point of extinction.
Young people are out there enjoying their cars and the fun and freedom you can have with them whether that's a Porsche Macan, a Tesla or a beat up Citroen Picasso. Most of them simply enjoy them in many different ways to that one single paradigm beloved of the likes of CAR, EVO and so on.
MWM3 said:
I passed up on a Chiron the other day. The deal was all agreed, the monthlies were well within my budget and I could easily put aside enough to pay the balloon in 4 years time but that £20k insurance quote just meant I couldn't go through with the deal.
Really? You will finance a £2m car and are happy to pay/lose god knows what in finance costs, then pull out because the insurance is only £20k? If you could afford that, then surely you'd realise that £20k is pretty fair given the value of the asset you are insuring? Are you saying that this is because you are a youngster? I would have thought if you were 20, 40 or 60 this is a reasonable cost!Gassing Station | Porsche General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff