My Car doesn't use any oil?

My Car doesn't use any oil?

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colnagoglyn

Original Poster:

51 posts

133 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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My 2005, 85000 mile, 997 2S appears not to be using any oil. It has never used much, maybe a litre every 4/5000 miles but now it doesn't appear to use any.

Let me explain, after it's last service the electronic gauge was reading full, ie: all bars full.

6000 miles later it is still reading the same, full, ie: all bars full.

When I turn the ignition on, the gauge pulsates through the bars as normal and settles on full.

My local dealer has had the car on the computer and no faults were found, his view is that the gauge is OK if it is pulsating through the bars as it should.

However I'm worried that there could be something wrong with the gauge and the car is using oil and at some point the oil warning light is going to come on.

Even worse, what if the oil warning light doesn't work.

I will probably get an oil change just for peace of mind but what do you guys think?


JagerT

455 posts

107 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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I heard you the first time.smile

colnagoglyn

Original Poster:

51 posts

133 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Apologies, my mistake but thanks for the helpful comment.

Paynewright

659 posts

77 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Why not just check it on the dipstick?

Green1man

549 posts

88 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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You aren’t driving it properly.*





* this is only partially fasetious, on my car I only tend to use oil when driving the car hard, have you been unusually sedate the past few thousand miles?


colnagoglyn

Original Poster:

51 posts

133 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Paynewright said:
Why not just check it on the dipstick?
There isn't a dipstick on a 997.

colnagoglyn

Original Poster:

51 posts

133 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Green1man said:
You aren’t driving it properly.*





* this is only partially fasetious, on my car I only tend to use oil when driving the car hard, have you been unusually sedate the past few thousand miles?
Come to think of it, yes, 80%l of my recent mileage has been steady motorway driving.

colnagoglyn

Original Poster:

51 posts

133 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Paynewright said:
Why not just check it on the dipstick?
There isn't a dipstick on a 997.

ChrisW.

6,296 posts

255 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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I find the oil indicator on my GT4 quite an unreliable thing ... sometimes after track days it takes a little time to stabilise but to be fair, after 12,000+ miles I also use very little oil ...

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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Get the garage to drain some oil and test it if you are concerned.

delays

786 posts

215 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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Wouldn't be too concerned.

My 986 2.5 was tight as a nut - no oil loss on the gauge throughout its 2 years of daily use.

My 987 2.9 has used a little - gauge settles around the mid to top bar, depending on angle it's parked, temperature, etc. But then, to be expected as it's used on a longer commute, and generally enjoyed more at weekends, etc.


edc

9,235 posts

251 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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Is this not just OCD Porsche Paranoia?!

colnagoglyn

Original Poster:

51 posts

133 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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edc said:
Is this not just OCD Porsche Paranoia?!
There could be a little bit of paranoia but my concern is based on the fact that the car has gone from using some oil to apparently using none.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,254 posts

235 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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colnagoglyn said:
Paynewright said:
Why not just check it on the dipstick?
There isn't a dipstick on a 997.
What a ridiculous piece of design?

Pope

2,638 posts

247 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Is it reading 'all bars full' as you say or up to Max; with one bar empty at the top?

If it genuinely has all of the indicator bars full it is overfilled and either needs some taken out or at least checking to see of it isn't over reading.



Overfilled



One bar from Max

Edited by Pope on Sunday 19th November 08:45

996TT02

3,308 posts

140 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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It is stupid because the only way to find out the oil level is to warm up the engine thoroughly first, which is not very good practice if you don't have enough oil to start off with. However presumably a red light would come on if there was no oil pressure. At least, an inconvenience if all you really want to do is top up in your garage, you can't just do it without letting the engine run for a while.

Pope

2,638 posts

247 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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997.1 have oil level check facility with ignition on; engine off hot or cold - the delay time is only affected by run time (if you start the car and switch it off before it is fully warm the delay time can be as long as 1 hour) but if you get in the car and just switch the ignition on the level is displayed. A compensation factor is employed for checking whether hot or cold (The level 'generally' appears the same when hot as when cold).

I agree the 997.2 has to be hot and running to check but the sensor will alert if the level is low at any time. The oil pressure, temperature and level are all measured separately.

As an aside; the M96/M97 engines are designed as integrated dry sump engines - the amount of oil held in the engine is vastly over what is required for running - they hold 9 litres when generally a conventionally sumped engine holds around 5 litres.

hunter 66

3,905 posts

220 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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The 01 996 GT3 RS uses half a litre per 1 hour running ...... according to the factory

maxpaul

451 posts

204 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Checked my oil level yesterday 997 Gen2 and its one bar from Max should I leave it or add some oil if so and how much?

Pope

2,638 posts

247 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Leave it - if it's between Min and Max it's fine.