Looks like Porsche denying me my 911 GTS - so disappointed

Looks like Porsche denying me my 911 GTS - so disappointed

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roger1361

Original Poster:

62 posts

135 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Having ordered my new 991.2 GTS convertible early last November, my Porsche Centre are now saying I may not get my car.

I'm so disappointed, they tell me Porsche are ceasing the 991.2 build in June and gearing up for the new model. But why did they take my deposit and lead me along ? They have offered me a Targa due to a customer cancellation but i didn't particularly want a Targa. Should I take it ? or am I being lead along the garden path ?

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Try a different OPC...

Cheib

23,205 posts

175 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Targa GTS is the best looking car of the range IMHO and build slots are rare as hens teeth....I vaguely enquirer about one just before Christmas and was told there was very little chance of getting one

ags11

569 posts

140 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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I'd say you'll still get a 991.2 cab when the factory opens again. They'll probably only have the 992 carrera and s at launch. The other models normally run on for a bit.
Agreed the target is a sound buy, there's never many around.

Frrair

1,369 posts

134 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Isn’t the targa about 130kg heavier than the coupe?

Surely that must be very noticeable and blunt the experience.

I would contact all the other OPC in a large radius and see what they come up.




Cheib

23,205 posts

175 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Frrair said:
Isn’t the targa about 130kg heavier than the coupe?

Surely that must be very noticeable and blunt the experience.

I would contact all the other OPC in a large radius and see what they come up.
You’d definitely notice it but it’s one of the good things about the new turbo engine...torque deals much better with the weight

thistimenextyear

270 posts

149 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Sorry to hear this OP, did your OPC give you any indication of build and delivery times when you ordered?

I have been made aware of the factory shutdown since I ordered my GTS but I don’t fully understand what the implications will be.

It does seem strange that some late GT3 allocations have been made as these surely will push other builds back - I may have got that completely wrong though

BnB

1,059 posts

175 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Cheib said:
You’d definitely notice it but it’s one of the good things about the new turbo engine...torque deals much better with the weight
Stick to straight roads however.

pete.g

1,527 posts

206 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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There is a good chance they didn't know.

I'd take the Targa in your situation - it's a very desirable car.

GT4RS

4,411 posts

197 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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If you can get a targa GTS build slot take it.

If you spec it as a manual 2 wheel drive it will be a very rare car.

IMO it's the best looking 911 currently for sale from there line up.

My local OPC had a voodoo blue gts it looked spectacular.

Roberty

1,179 posts

172 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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GT4RS said:
If you can get a targa GTS build slot take it.

If you spec it as a manual 2 wheel drive it will be a very rare car.
It certainly would be rare as all Targa’s are 4 wheel drive, for some reason!

A Targa GTS would be my choice over a Cabrio. Very nice.

davidc1

1,544 posts

162 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Targa has the x factor for me. Just lovely.looks the tits.

jkh112

21,959 posts

158 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Sorry to hear how your OPC have treated you.
I am not in the market for a new 991, I will have to stick with my 996 a while longer.
In a few years though if I were to trade up then a targa would be much more desirable to me than a cab.

roger1361

Original Poster:

62 posts

135 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Update: I went to the dealer and they tell me they are hardly getting any 911's through right now, my GTS order might materialize in September but it's not certain. I called another dealer who says theres little chance of them getting a new GTS now. I took a good look at a base used Targa and it is really very nice, looks good, special even, we went for a drive with the roof stowed and its fine, very little wind buffeting and it was - well a 911 & therefore superb. Upon checking the used values of targa GTS cars I find dealers are actually asking around 10k to 13k above list price right now for 17 & 67 plate cars. So I switched my order an I'm expecting a shiny new GTS targa early April, all happy again smile

flight147z

970 posts

129 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Great choice - I'd love one of those. Hope you enjoy it!

It's a shame the older targas just aren't the same as the 991 as that rules out an older one for me too!

Captain James T

615 posts

208 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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I was offered a 3 month old Targa 4 GTS at my local OPC that was supposedly £125k new and was selling for £113k. Are they bailing out before the new one? It was in primer grey Crayon which is a bit personal for my liking *blurgh*

Cheib

23,205 posts

175 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Captain James T said:
I was offered a 3 month old Targa 4 GTS at my local OPC that was supposedly £125k new and was selling for £113k. Are they bailing out before the new one? It was in primer grey Crayon which is a bit personal for my liking *blurgh*
New Targa GTS is probably three years away so I doubt it. The 991.1 Targa GTS was only made in very limited volumes because it was released quite late in the 991.1's life.....it's probably has the best residuals of any 911 outside a GT car. That's a pretty good discount on a three month old car.

Captain James T

615 posts

208 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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It's on their website if anyone's interested, just with no price against it. They also have a nice carmine red GTS .2 Cabriolet for about £115k too which was sitting next to it the other day. That's more my preference, but will have to wait until April before I pull the trigger!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?sort=spons...



Edited by Captain James T on Sunday 14th January 10:27

Herdwick

150 posts

238 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Interesting that exactly the same thing happened to me last week.

Deposit paid last July for estimated delivery Feb/March, on a GTS cabriolet, then got a call last week that my car would no longer be available, BUT I could also have a Targa instead.

However I was told that production will stop in March and resume in September, and if I wanted I could wait until September/October for delivery.

I looked at the Targa, but decided that after waiting for 6 months for the car I had specced, I would rather consider my alternatives. Deposit was returned by the OPC within 48hours. I thought it was a strange thing to happen, but now I see I am not the only one.

Strange though that there is plenty of availability for Targa models.

SimonOcean

317 posts

153 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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Seems like the rarity of the Targa will be undone. Meanwhile I would not want all that extra weight high up on my car. I would rather buy a used 991.1 convertible and be happy.

Weight distribution makes a HUGE difference to the handling of a car. Yesterday I transported 60 small 50cl bottles of Volvic in my GT4. I deliberately put all 60 bottles the rear trunk of my car, rather than half up front and half in the back. The car was not overloaded, but the weight distribution was all screwed up. Car felt bad: vague steering, understeer, slow response. Transformed the car from a scalpel that I love driving into a sack of spuds. Thankfully sans Volvic the car feels ace again.

I know that the comparison to the Targa is not quite the same, but the point being that the changes in vehicle dynamics - besides how fast it goes in a straight line - are very tangible.