Classic 911s being stolen - Police don't investigate
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http://www.itv.com/news/london/2018-02-19/classic-...
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There have been numerous thefts of aircooled 911s recently from central London carparks and residential streets.
It seems that the metropolitan police don't bother to investigate car thefts anymore. This is a potential 'green light' to car thieves, who are able to steal classic Porsches without fear of investigation.
When my 1977 911 was stolen last month the police told me that they wouldn't be investigating the crime due to lack of resources, in fact they didn't even come and take a look at scene of the crime. I was left to ask local businesses to look at their cctv.
Surely something more can be done to catch the criminals?
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/hold-car-col...
There have been numerous thefts of aircooled 911s recently from central London carparks and residential streets.
It seems that the metropolitan police don't bother to investigate car thefts anymore. This is a potential 'green light' to car thieves, who are able to steal classic Porsches without fear of investigation.
When my 1977 911 was stolen last month the police told me that they wouldn't be investigating the crime due to lack of resources, in fact they didn't even come and take a look at scene of the crime. I was left to ask local businesses to look at their cctv.
Surely something more can be done to catch the criminals?
Have you contacted your MP?
Police numbers have fallen dramatically, but this doesn't mean you aren't entitled to protection from crime.
I had an issue last year, nothing to do with cars but with the NHS and the way they were treating my father's move to another hospital.
The day after I contacted my MP the hospital phoned to say they were moving him to the hospital we wanted and not the one they had insisted he would have to go to.
I'm not saying your MP will gather a posse to find your car, but sometimes people don't bother with lobbying their MP for fear that their's is just another gripe in a million.
In the case of uninvestigated car thefts perhaps we should all be contacting our MPs now to see what they are doing about it? Our car could be next?
Police numbers have fallen dramatically, but this doesn't mean you aren't entitled to protection from crime.
I had an issue last year, nothing to do with cars but with the NHS and the way they were treating my father's move to another hospital.
The day after I contacted my MP the hospital phoned to say they were moving him to the hospital we wanted and not the one they had insisted he would have to go to.
I'm not saying your MP will gather a posse to find your car, but sometimes people don't bother with lobbying their MP for fear that their's is just another gripe in a million.
In the case of uninvestigated car thefts perhaps we should all be contacting our MPs now to see what they are doing about it? Our car could be next?
Not just cars not being investigated its break ins also! We appear to live in a society where no one gives a damn and crime and antisocial behaviour is rife without consequences!We need a government to have zero tolerance to crime and perhaps crimes will reduce therefore saving in the long run! Or how a bit of shariah law !
The motorcycle community are finding it difficult to get insurance commuting into London. Khan called a meeting with motorcycle manufacturers to tell them they needed to make their products less nickable..
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Some thought that there were other solutions
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www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-general-news/lon...
Some thought that there were other solutions
www.visordown.com/features/five-things-london-mayo...
I'm very much in favour of the proposal to have tattooed onto the forehead of criminals their past crime/s.
Imagine "RAPIST" or "WHITE COLLAR FRAUD" for a moment...
This would give potential victims a helping hand identifying them, and of course it would be an excellent deterrent too.
Plans for the tattooing process to be televised via a kind of "game show" hosted by Michael Palin, although having my own support, are unlikely to make it through the legislation however.
Imagine "RAPIST" or "WHITE COLLAR FRAUD" for a moment...
This would give potential victims a helping hand identifying them, and of course it would be an excellent deterrent too.
Plans for the tattooing process to be televised via a kind of "game show" hosted by Michael Palin, although having my own support, are unlikely to make it through the legislation however.
Had a couple of cars stolen back in the 90's when car crime was much more prolific, I contacted the local feds to report the crime, I asked if they were coming out to the scene, the reply was "why would we come out to look at an empty space on your drive where the car once was, it's a waste of our time and resource, here's a crime number, contact your insurance company" although the reply wasn't what I was expecting it was a fair point...
Back to the OP’s post. I am amazed people are leaving air cooled 911’s parked on the streets in London to be honest....clearly tney’re valuable cars and unless s they’ve upgraded the security by modern standards it’s rubbish. The other thing is the parts on these cars are expensive so if they don’t steal the cars they’ll steal bits off them!
I moved into London in 1994 and lived in decent parts of London until 2015 when I moved out of London. Suffered multiple thefts from cars (wheels and bumpers etc) when parked on the street...got myself a lock up garage but that didn’t stop the issues. Basically gave up having cars that would attract attention around 2005.
So what I’m saying is that unfortunately I just don’t think you can leave these cars parked overnight anywhere unless there’s decent security.
I moved into London in 1994 and lived in decent parts of London until 2015 when I moved out of London. Suffered multiple thefts from cars (wheels and bumpers etc) when parked on the street...got myself a lock up garage but that didn’t stop the issues. Basically gave up having cars that would attract attention around 2005.
So what I’m saying is that unfortunately I just don’t think you can leave these cars parked overnight anywhere unless there’s decent security.
kbooker said:
Had a couple of cars stolen back in the 90's when car crime was much more prolific, I contacted the local feds to report the crime, I asked if they were coming out to the scene, the reply was "why would we come out to look at an empty space on your drive where the car once was, it's a waste of our time and resource, here's a crime number, contact your insurance company" although the reply wasn't what I was expecting it was a fair point...
Back in my day if we got a report of a car having just been stolen we would spend a good 30 mins to an hour searching for it, local dodgy garages rough estates etc. Then go to the scene to be given grief for not arriving am hour ago. My response was, what's the point I've been looking for it and its certainly not on your drive !kbooker said:
Had a couple of cars stolen back in the 90's when car crime was much more prolific, I contacted the local feds to report the crime, I asked if they were coming out to the scene, the reply was "why would we come out to look at an empty space on your drive where the car once was, it's a waste of our time and resource, here's a crime number, contact your insurance company" although the reply wasn't what I was expecting it was a fair point...
Have you had any more cars stolen since you left the USA. Also wouldn't you contact your local sheriff, or other police force, thought the FBI only dealt with larger issues. 
For 25 years I have parked my RS/GT3 on street and now park my Ferrari on street for the lat 4 years and willl park my new GT3 RS on street as well in London ..... they are my daily drivers .... only once the old GT3 was vandalised but foolishly I parked outside a pub ... so my fault really
Crime figures opinions over reaction. I go off what i see me experiences etc.
USA do not mess around with the cops they demand and generally get respect but they too struggle to investigate car theft.as they too in the middle of social tensions and not all are rednecks and creators of racial tensions
Singapore great country a melting pot no nonsense nation, respect the rules respect the country but migrant labour force. So under control
UK cops are expected to deal with everything from racial tension social injustice etc etc to car theft sure car theft is way down their list when they are turning a blind eye to kidnap rape grooming which is endemic in UK then we have problems not with our Police force but the apathy of our government.
I remember being frequently stopped in early 70,s one time copper stood in the middle of road and stopped me. Wouldnt do that now in the wild west town of Nelson Lancs.
I had my car stolen an S4 Avant back in 2003 the cops said it,ll be either in Bolton or Leeds i lived at the time in Colne,.
6 weeks later got a summons from Yorkshire Police a speeding offence in leeds 2 weeks after car had been stolen. myself Lancs, Yorkshire Police had good laugh about it but they both acknowledged that cars stolen to order by professional Asian gangs operating out of Leeds/Bradford and Bolton but had little funding and resources to tackle it and couldnt publicise the fact.
USA do not mess around with the cops they demand and generally get respect but they too struggle to investigate car theft.as they too in the middle of social tensions and not all are rednecks and creators of racial tensions
Singapore great country a melting pot no nonsense nation, respect the rules respect the country but migrant labour force. So under control
UK cops are expected to deal with everything from racial tension social injustice etc etc to car theft sure car theft is way down their list when they are turning a blind eye to kidnap rape grooming which is endemic in UK then we have problems not with our Police force but the apathy of our government.
I remember being frequently stopped in early 70,s one time copper stood in the middle of road and stopped me. Wouldnt do that now in the wild west town of Nelson Lancs.
I had my car stolen an S4 Avant back in 2003 the cops said it,ll be either in Bolton or Leeds i lived at the time in Colne,.
6 weeks later got a summons from Yorkshire Police a speeding offence in leeds 2 weeks after car had been stolen. myself Lancs, Yorkshire Police had good laugh about it but they both acknowledged that cars stolen to order by professional Asian gangs operating out of Leeds/Bradford and Bolton but had little funding and resources to tackle it and couldnt publicise the fact.
Cheib said:
So what I’m saying is that unfortunately I just don’t think you can leave these cars parked overnight anywhere unless there’s decent security.
This ^ If the police no longer have the time or resources to investigate stolen vehicles and you want (or have to) leave something as desirable as an air cooled 911 parked on the street overnight, an owner needs to do all they can to secure it, or fit multiple trackers/tracking devices, they're no longer expensive, so there's no excuse not to fit them these days.
I'm pretty sure if you notified the police as to the exact location of your stolen car, they'd attend to it rapidly, as if nothing else, it makes their "crimes solved" tally look better !
anonymous said:
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crime is up, they just don't include every thing, so while petty crime might be down over all, serious crimes are all well up , some even 70% so you say crime has dropped from 6 million to say about 4 but lets now add 6M cases of Cyber and fraud to those figures, to make it 10m from 6m
petty crime has been swapped for fraud ! all serious crimes are well up.
Terrorism up 54%
violent crime up 22%
Knife crime up 11%
murder up 23%
gun crime up 7%
Robbery up 8%
as for rape and sex offences that's up 10 fold.
burglaries are down but that's well offset by public Robbery and fraud which is all the same thing really ie taking s
t.so low you say ? 28k a day reported crime with all serious crime up.
Edited by Porsche911R on Tuesday 3rd April 08:51
My mate works for a tracker company. You can get then well hidden and pay about 15 quid per month to monitor location 24 7. Thing is if your car was stolen would you want it back or prefer the settlement and move on. I guess it depends if you have a reasonable agreed value with your ins co.
anonymous said:
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Ultimately its a balance no arguement there and when you get political correctness undermining The Law and not protecting the rights of in this case child rape grooming etc going on for years all around the country and cover ups by Police Social Services Goverment etc then you create the extremist reactions. Turning a blind eye and stating its all load of nonsense dribble etc, is shameful cowardly etc the facts are out there unquestionably. F all to do with the good old days. I am ashamed that this has been allowed to happen. Long term its disasterous for our democracy of all decent law abiding citizens irrespective of colour creed etc.Political correctness is the cradle of Anarchy.
good old days communities existed Coppers new who the villians were and had full support of the Public. Jo public knew who the villians were. what is the order you are reffering to ? prosperous you talking money etc look at stats more children living and being brought up in poverty etc than in the 60s. WTF has this got to do with high end car theft one word Apathy
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