996 Turbo/997 Carerra

[jakesmith]

Sure, plus space for more shopping in the boot too, right

[neutral 3]

Keep looking at this one, love the exterior colour of this one, but those dire alloys, it's high mileage and it's way ££ ott asking price.

[Belle427]

That’s a mid to high twenty’s car at best, lovely colour though.

[neutral 3]

Belle427 said:

That’s a mid to high twenty’s car at best, lovely colour though.

My thoughts as well!
This one is simply stunning, love the exterior / interior colour combo, but I usually go for non stand out, dark colours.

[Belle427]

neutral 3 said:

Belle427 said:

That’s a mid to high twenty’s car at best, lovely colour though.

My thoughts as well!
This one is simply stunning, love the exterior / interior colour combo, but I usually go for non stand out, dark colours. [/quote

Yes that's very nice, I think the black inside breaks up the red a little. Seems most Porsches come in black or silver exterior colours!
I'm not the biggest fan of silver but it really suits some cars and this is one of them.
I'd still personally look at 997 s too, every now and again one pops up with a hartech engine rebuild or even a gen 2 for Turbo money.

[ooid]

Have you considered 964 or 993? if you can push your budget a bit more, I think you would get a "decent" one, and they have more character imho. 996 is pretty fast, but pretty ugly (I think)... 997 potential big bills do not need second mention as you know..

[Wudee]

Personally I think the 996 has the nicer interior over the 997. More authentic and to me it ages better.

[Sine Metu]

How about something like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCM22DeVyzQ

[shantybeater]

neutral 3 said:

Very easily compare an E46 M3 to a 996T.
I used have some regular tear ups with someone in a 996T some years ago and around the lanes was up his chuff. My M3 had a CSL steering rack ( which gave it perfect steering feel and feedback ) and I ran it without rear seats or trim, which saved a lot of weight. The M3 on decent shocks and Contis, handles beautifully. Yes, when we used to get onto a fast straight bit of rd, then of course he then pulled away, but not by as much as I expected him to.
And yes, the 996T is a supercar, but there is Far more to a car than just straight line speed. Insane / High speeds are totally out of the question in the Sth now,

I'm afraid I disagree. I have alot of love for both cars but they are poles apart and fulfil different needs. the E46 is my daily and the 996 my weekend toy. The M3 is a jack of all trades but a master of none. It is compromised in its abilities because it has good boot space, fits four, and is comfortable/more refined. It also makes a lovely noise, has a better built cabin, and winds up really well on country roads. It is very enjoyable because you can quite easily reach its limits and get it squirming about controllably.

The 996 on the other hand is a more honed sports car. It won't fit adults in the back, the interior is of poor quality, but the performance and feedback is in a different league. It is also way way beyond just a straight line warrior. The most impressive drives I have had in the turbo are wet country roads where its ability uttlery outstrips my talent. An e46 m3 in any scenario would not see what direction it went in. I suggest driver skill played a part with your experience, but perhaps its the perception of what how quickly you expected him to disappear? I have toyed with 12C's and Aventadors in similar scenarios and been blown away by how well the 16 year old pork held its own.

Edited by shantybeater on Saturday 19th January 16:08

[Belle427]

shantybeater said:

I'm afraid I disagree. I have alot of love for both cars but they are poles apart and fulfil different needs. the E46 is my daily and the 996 my weekend toy. The M3 is a jack of all trades but a master of none. It is compromised in its abilities because it has good boot space, fits four, and is comfortable/more refined. It also makes a lovely noise, has a better built cabin, and winds up really well on country roads. It is very enjoyable because you can quite easily reach its limits and get it squirming about controllably.

The 996 on the other hand is a more honed sports car. It won't fit adults in the back, the interior is of poor quality, but the performance and feedback is in a different league. It is also way way beyond just a straight line warrior. The most impressive drives I have had in the turbo are wet country roads where its ability uttlery outstrips my talent. An e46 m3 in any scenario would not see what direction it went in. I suggest driver skill played a part with your experience, but perhaps its the perception of what how quickly you expected him to disappear? I have toyed with 12C's and Aventadors in similar scenarios and been blown away by how well the 16 year old pork held its own.

Edited by shantybeater on Saturday 19th January 16:08

Hell of a garage there!

[jakesmith]

shantybeater said:

I'm afraid I disagree. I have alot of love for both cars but they are poles apart and fulfil different needs. the E46 is my daily and the 996 my weekend toy. The M3 is a jack of all trades but a master of none. It is compromised in its abilities because it has good boot space, fits four, and is comfortable/more refined. It also makes a lovely noise, has a better built cabin, and winds up really well on country roads. It is very enjoyable because you can quite easily reach its limits and get it squirming about controllably.

The 996 on the other hand is a more honed sports car. It won't fit adults in the back, the interior is of poor quality, but the performance and feedback is in a different league. It is also way way beyond just a straight line warrior. The most impressive drives I have had in the turbo are wet country roads where its ability uttlery outstrips my talent. An e46 m3 in any scenario would not see what direction it went in. I suggest driver skill played a part with your experience, but perhaps its the perception of what how quickly you expected him to disappear? I have toyed with 12C's and Aventadors in similar scenarios and been blown away by how well the 16 year old pork held its own.

Edited by shantybeater on Saturday 19th January 16:08

Great post from someone very well placed to comment on both cars

One thing I wonder is how the 996tt compares to the 991.2 4s that it looks similar to on paper

[pmr01]

shantybeater said:

I'm afraid I disagree. I have alot of love for both cars but they are poles apart and fulfil different needs. the E46 is my daily and the 996 my weekend toy. The M3 is a jack of all trades but a master of none. It is compromised in its abilities because it has good boot space, fits four, and is comfortable/more refined. It also makes a lovely noise, has a better built cabin, and winds up really well on country roads. It is very enjoyable because you can quite easily reach its limits and get it squirming about controllably.

The 996 on the other hand is a more honed sports car. It won't fit adults in the back, the interior is of poor quality, but the performance and feedback is in a different league. It is also way way beyond just a straight line warrior. The most impressive drives I have had in the turbo are wet country roads where its ability uttlery outstrips my talent. An e46 m3 in any scenario would not see what direction it went in. I suggest driver skill played a part with your experience, but perhaps its the perception of what how quickly you expected him to disappear? I have toyed with 12C's and Aventadors in similar scenarios and been blown away by how well the 16 year old pork held its own.

Edited by shantybeater on Saturday 19th January 16:08

Such a true statement on the wet country roads bit...they are proper stunning in those conditions...can carry enormous speeds but bizarrely don't feel like they will hurt you.

[MrwReckless]

neutral 3 said:

Keep looking at this one, love the exterior colour of this one, but those dire alloys, it's high mileage and it's way ££ ott asking price.

You might think the style is marmite, and I do concur the style doesn't seem to suit the 996, but having googled it extensively, I find the 996 incredibly picky to wheel style.

That being said, the wheels look like they're OZ's? So at least they aren't of "dire" quality.

Regards