6 Cylinder 718 GTS ?

6 Cylinder 718 GTS ?

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Geoff39GL

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573 posts

136 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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Anyone an opinion on this, although the link seems to have been taken down, but I saw it on Planet 9.

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/p...wCFOGwnH-ia...



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Yes! Porsche to Offer Six-Cylinder Cayman and Boxster Below the GT4
Porsche looks to spread the six-cylinder wealth again.
By: Conner Golden February 5, 2019

For those who want a new 718 Cayman with a six-cylinder but were worried they won’t have the coin for the forthcoming—and as-yet unrevealed—hard-core GT4 variant, we come bearing good news: According to a well-placed source, Porsche will once again offer a six-cylinder engine below the Cayman GT4 and Boxster Spyder line-toppers.

The exact positioning of the new variant wasn’t made explicit, but it could possibly fill the gap between the GTS and GT4/Spyder while offering subtler exterior looks along with a more refined cabin with more sound deadening, additional luxury trimmings, and more comfort-oriented seats than the stripped-out and hard-nosed GT4. In that way, it would be a 718 analog to the 991.2 911 GT3 Touring. There’s also a chance the new model will simply be the next GTS.




If sixers do make their way into the 718’s general population, we’d love for the 718 Cayman and Boxster S models to ditch their 2.5-liter turbo fours and revert to six-cylinder power. That would leave the torque-rich but aurally unconvincing 2.0-liter turbo-four to the base 718 models and create a more compelling reason for shoppers to upgrade. There are also a number of Porsche aficionados—including one of our own contributors—who remain unmoved by four-cylinder powerplants.

There’s also the question of which six-cylinder will be used. Rumors continue to swirl around the potential for a detuned 4.0-liter from the 991.2 911 GT3 or the current 992 Carrera’s twin-turbo 3.0-liter unit, but our money is on the 3.8-liter flat-six from the 991.1 (2012–2015) 911 Carrera S/GTS and 981 Cayman GT4.



Crucially, the 3.8-liter is the engine found in the recently unveiled 718 GT4 Clubsport race car pictured above, and that model’s predecessor used a 3.8-liter in the exact same spec as its road-car sibling. The new Clubsport’s 420-hp figure is also a reasonable jump over the old GT4, and slots in perfectly underneath the new 911 Carrera S, as did the older car. It’s certainly possible that the GT4 gets the 420-hp version of the engine, with the lower-spec car coming in somewhere around 400. Porsche loves to space out its offerings into thin niches in terms of both power and price.

However the details shake out, we can’t wait to hear a six-cylinder wail in Porsche’s smallest sports cars again.



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Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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There have been non-wing 718 Cayman and Boxster mules knocking about with the new GT4 exhaust/diffuser, so there's definitely something in the works...

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/...

Edited by Twinfan on Wednesday 6th February 18:19

gtsralph

1,186 posts

144 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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It was on the rennlist forum this morning but seemed very unlikely to me, perhaps a journalist's speculation to meet target article count

Twinfan

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104 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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Koln-RS

3,863 posts

212 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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It still won't be 'normally aspirated' frown

Koln-RS

3,863 posts

212 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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It still won't be 'normally aspirated' frown

Geoff39GL

Original Poster:

573 posts

136 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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Twinfan said:
Yes that is it, the link I saw from Planet 9 has been taken down, but there does seem to be something in it or that just wishful thinking.

dreamcar

1,067 posts

111 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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It won’t happen with the 718, which probably only has two years left (at most) before it is replaced with an all new model. The basic design is due for replacement as the car is in reality a 981/2.

mactrack

103 posts

90 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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One of the rumours I read some months ago was that, along with a Cayman T model, a 718 Cayman R was coming as well with 420PS but no mention of cylinder count but presumably it was going to be the same engine as the 718 GT4/Spyder but more road focused. I even asked my local OPC to keep me informed if either model was announced although they didn't when the T was!

As another member has pointed out several times in the past there have been no sightings of any replacements for the 718 which would be announced this year or next if normal 7 year product cycles were being followed. Therefore, if true, then perhaps they've got to keep interest in the 718 somehow before electrification in a few more years.

dreamcar

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111 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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Koln-RS said:
It still won't be 'normally aspirated' frown
Nothing wrong with the turbo flat six in the 991/2 and 992!

bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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It would need to at least match the performance of the current 718 GTS - and would probably need 400bhp, perhaps a tad more, to do that Ie it would need to have to pretty much match the upcoming GT4 on power and performance. If it's a mainstream car as suggested it would be stepping on the toes of the 911 again. I somehow doubt Porsche would do that.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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The mystery Cayman could be a GT4 Touring, and if we'd only seen that I think that's what we'd guess.

The Boxster equivalent is the interesting one as it indicates a new model rather than an option pack.

boxsey

3,574 posts

210 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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Seems a daft article to me because despite the headline power differences there will be a minimal performance gap between the 718GTS and the (if it ever arrives) 718 GT4 to fit another model in between. A PDK equipped 718GTS is already quicker in a straight line than the 981GT4. And would probably keep up with it in the corners if on the same tyres. So it's going to be snapping at the heels of a manual 718GT4 too. It's all getting rather crowded at the top! biggrin

DJMC

3,438 posts

103 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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Herr you go...




...but with a 718 front end?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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Maybe they’ll introduce it as a more junior model since the F4T is so glorious and quick, and that old inefficient & slow 981 engine F6 could be a good starting point into the range ?

dreamcar

1,067 posts

111 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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anonymous said:
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Well I would prefer an n/a engine too, but in a mainstream model such as a 718 or even 911 unfortunately it would have to be a turbo these days. But the 991/2 / 992 turbo six is a million times better than that vibro-massage four cylinder lump in the current 718.

hixster

354 posts

217 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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Koln-RS said:
It still won't be 'normally aspirated' frown
it would - turbo six doesn't fit in the Cayman which is exactly why the 4 is a 'thing'

hixster

354 posts

217 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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Twinfan said:
There have been non-wing 718 Cayman and Boxster mules knocking about with the new GT4 exhaust/diffuser, so there's definitely something in the works...

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/...

Edited by Twinfan on Wednesday 6th February 18:19
this would be excellent fking news. I'd love one of these If I can't get my hands on a GT4 (emails have been going in to dealer for that separately)

ags11

569 posts

140 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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I'd guess there'll just be a touring option on the GT4, which obviously doesn't make it easy to get hold of.
It'd be fantastic and perhaps wishful thinking to find all the particle filter nonsense allowing them to produce a more mainstream NA car.

hixster

354 posts

217 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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anonymous said:
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Yawn.. We’ve been over this many times.. I can’t be bothered to debate it tbh - but I take Porsche’s word for it as they have said so and I’ve posted links to that reference many times.