964 RS - Daily Driver????????
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Funny enough I have just been using my RS for a few days as my everyday car, as a stop gap whilst I got another everyday car.
Whilst the ride is stiff it's not really so bad that you could'nt use it everyday. The problem I would have if I kept using it, is keeping my licence. The power is so usable and the noise soooo adictive it's a real job to keep to sane speeds. 100mph and sure fire banning teritory come up real quick. You may also find your left leg grows bigger and your biceps become similar in size to arnies :-)) Winter and wet weather do not mix with the initials RS either. And then there is snow!!! to be honest in the wet on uk roads you would be quicker in just about anything else and I do mean anything. If you think you can live with the above then you'll be fine.
Whilst the ride is stiff it's not really so bad that you could'nt use it everyday. The problem I would have if I kept using it, is keeping my licence. The power is so usable and the noise soooo adictive it's a real job to keep to sane speeds. 100mph and sure fire banning teritory come up real quick. You may also find your left leg grows bigger and your biceps become similar in size to arnies :-)) Winter and wet weather do not mix with the initials RS either. And then there is snow!!! to be honest in the wet on uk roads you would be quicker in just about anything else and I do mean anything. If you think you can live with the above then you'll be fine.
domster said:
The 964RS is fine in traffic. The engine oil may heat up a little but never critically in my experience - although many owners remove the rear undertray as a precaution as (I believe) the exhaust valve guides suffer under excessive heat. Someone more technical like 9M may be able to chip in here.
Absolutely right - when I buzzed my engine, I had to have new exhaust valves too - and the engine had only covered 25k miles at that time. All down to the higher temps caused by the rear undertray - which I then smartly removed.
An RS is bloody noisy inside too - can be drowned out by the radio (or CD actually, as there's no amplifier for the aerial in an RS, despite the car using the standard 'screen complete with aerial embedded in it)
This undertray thing is a bit confusing. If overheating occurs, surely the oil temp will reflect this? I have my undertray on and have been stuck in a few jams. The oil temp has risen but stayed well within safe limits (no where near the red zone but maybe at 9.30). Therefore, the oil temp is within spec and cooling the engine as designed.
I could understand if the oil temp went crazy in traffic and helped to do so be lack of ventilation due to the undertray but it doesn't.
Maybe I'm missing someting here?
I could understand if the oil temp went crazy in traffic and helped to do so be lack of ventilation due to the undertray but it doesn't.
Maybe I'm missing someting here?
Silver, its not really overheaing as such, its that tray off is more a good way of reducing heat build up by giving beter ventilation, a/c 911s run a bit warmer in the head dept than a wasssen pumpen conventinonal engine- accelerating top end wear, its one of the reasons behind why in general a/c 911 heads & top end rebuilds are needed (on road cars) before the type of miles youd expect to need to rebuild a head on a well built normal water cooled engine.
Is there any reason why you have to use the RS as a DD? For me the commute is a 45mph (if I'm lucky) 35 minute bumper to bumper dirge. It seems wasted on my 968CS, so a '64RS would be miserable. Personally I'd hate the thought of all that salt and crud slowly destroying my P&J, and sometimes after a long day shining my trouser arse in front of a key board I just need cosseting.
Can't you manage to run a cheap daily set of wheels , and keep the RS for week-end/sunny day etc use? Even a nice old 924S would do the trick.
A limited mileage Classic Car insurance policy for the RS would offer some savings too.
SS7
Can't you manage to run a cheap daily set of wheels , and keep the RS for week-end/sunny day etc use? Even a nice old 924S would do the trick.
A limited mileage Classic Car insurance policy for the RS would offer some savings too.
SS7
Great vid from Harry, I remember that 911 Heaven article.
I couldn’t afford a 911 at that time so ended up buying a E30 M3 instead, kept that a few years before buying a 964 C4 that had a similar stance to an RS (or I thought so) as it was lowered.
That must of been 20 years ago and it was my first Porsche.
Happy memories.
I couldn’t afford a 911 at that time so ended up buying a E30 M3 instead, kept that a few years before buying a 964 C4 that had a similar stance to an RS (or I thought so) as it was lowered.
That must of been 20 years ago and it was my first Porsche.
Happy memories.
KittyLitter said:
there wasn't another 964 RS thread I could find in order to keep matters on topic. You do realise you aren't forced to click
You're right, I'm not forced to click on any threads, but unlike you who wanders around this forum aimlessly resurrecting threads or posting on the "Restomods" thread, some us do actually try and post useful information that may be helpful and of use to others.If you cast your mind back, I suggested you start a new thread of your own, you can then post links to cars for sale, dogsh*te restomods and other such stuff you and others may find interesting. Rather than looking for an old thread to resurrect to then add a link to.
Of course having been banned, and returned "under the radar", you most likely don't want to do that, for fear you'll be recognised and booted off here again, so you continue to resurrect near 20 year old threads instead.
By starting your own new thread, people can happily visit it, whilst those clicking onto the old threads you insist on resurrecting, thinking they may be able to contribute something useful to the original topic, needn't.
In all honesty, I guessed this was another of your thread resurrections, but I hoped it might actually be someone genuinely resurrecting a topic seeking information/advice (but having just watched Harry's video earlier this evening, I was pretty sure it was another of your "special resurrections" (yes, unfortunately you are THAT predictable ...)
Slippydiff said:
KittyLitter said:
there wasn't another 964 RS thread I could find in order to keep matters on topic. You do realise you aren't forced to click
You're right, I'm not forced to click on any threads, but unlike you who wanders around this forum aimlessly resurrecting threads or posting on the "Restomods" thread, some us do actually try and post useful information that may be helpful and of use to others.If you cast your mind back, I suggested you start a new thread of your own, you can then post links to cars for sale, dogsh*te restomods and other such stuff you and others may find interesting. Rather than looking for an old thread to resurrect to then add a link to.
Of course having been banned, and returned "under the radar", you most likely don't want to do that, for fear you'll be recognised and booted off here again, so you continue to resurrect near 20 year old threads instead.
By starting your own new thread, people can happily visit it, whilst those clicking onto the old threads you insist on resurrecting, thinking they may be able to contribute something useful to the original topic, needn't.
In all honesty, I guessed this was another of your thread resurrections, but I hoped it might actually be someone genuinely resurrecting a topic seeking information/advice (but having just watched Harry's video earlier this evening, I was pretty sure it was another of your "special resurrections" (yes, unfortunately you are THAT predictable ...)
KittyLitter said:
Slippydiff said:
KittyLitter said:
there wasn't another 964 RS thread I could find in order to keep matters on topic. You do realise you aren't forced to click
You're right, I'm not forced to click on any threads, but unlike you who wanders around this forum aimlessly resurrecting threads or posting on the "Restomods" thread, some us do actually try and post useful information that may be helpful and of use to others.If you cast your mind back, I suggested you start a new thread of your own, you can then post links to cars for sale, dogsh*te restomods and other such stuff you and others may find interesting. Rather than looking for an old thread to resurrect to then add a link to.
Of course having been banned, and returned "under the radar", you most likely don't want to do that, for fear you'll be recognised and booted off here again, so you continue to resurrect near 20 year old threads instead.
By starting your own new thread, people can happily visit it, whilst those clicking onto the old threads you insist on resurrecting, thinking they may be able to contribute something useful to the original topic, needn't.
In all honesty, I guessed this was another of your thread resurrections, but I hoped it might actually be someone genuinely resurrecting a topic seeking information/advice (but having just watched Harry's video earlier this evening, I was pretty sure it was another of your "special resurrections" (yes, unfortunately you are THAT predictable ...)
I found it really interesting comparing a question from 2005 when the car was 13 years old (and now almost 20 years ago) to the way Harry sees the car now. I really enjoy his insightful videos ... not totally correct because the Motec modification was an exchange ECU and at 325bhp it probably had a cat bypass, different fuel injectors, secondary silencer delete ... and hopefully rebuilt with ARP rod bolts ... but otherwise just as I remembered mine (which was set-up and rolling roaded at 335bhp, though it was the torque uplift that was the most noticeable).
On the subject of suspension, the Cup car front dampers were more compliant than the standard road ones, and some did fit 993RS ones ... some even fitted the 993RS six speed gearbox. But I guess that most now just need the dampers reconditioning ??
I'm sure that Slippy will have a view on this
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