781 Cayman/Boxster Touring

781 Cayman/Boxster Touring

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Yidwann

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1,872 posts

209 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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So it looks like, some prayers might be answered, a car that you can spec, all the latest toys, and a 6 Cylinder engine, that a mere peon in the Porsche Purchasing Pyramid might be able to buy?

Sign me up, anyone heard anymore? Might have to pimp myself out of a few OPC's at the weekend! Didn't want to derail the GT4 thread any more with it!

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-porsche/porsch...

Twinfan

10,125 posts

103 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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Mules were spotted late last year (from memory) and it's coming late this year according to the rumour mill. It's going to be called the "718 Cayman 6" or "718 Boxster 6".

Some info here: https://www.carscoops.com/2019/05/porsche-to-offer...

Given how Porsche work, it's likely to sit above a 718 GTS but below a 718 Spyder/GT4. So around £70k base or ££80k+ optioned up?

If it only has 380bhp and a non-GT chassis I certainly won't be bothering to change from my 981 GTS into one - it'll cost me £30k to change. The same as the change to a 981 GT4. The mules we've seen aren't "GT4 with Touring Pack" cars like the GT3. Look at the size of the PCCBs on the mules, the 718-6 has the more normal sized PCCBs from the F4T 718 Cayman, whereas the GT4 mule has the larger GT-style versions.

So the 718-6 is basically a 718-4 with a different engine, the chassis is probably the same as the regular 718 models:




Yidwann

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1,872 posts

209 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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Twinfan said:
If it only has 380bhp and a non-GT chassis I certainly won't be bothering to change from my 981 GTS into one - it'll cost me £30k to change.
Yeah, if I had, or could find a 981S or GTS then this wouldn't be an issue, S's are rare and add Manual's into that mix and you're into single figures about. I'm jealous of what you already have.

Twinfan said:
So the 718-6 is basically a 718-4 with a different engine, the chassis is probably the same as the regaulr 718 models
And that will do me just fine, I wasn't expecting the full flavour GT4 like the GT3 touring, or really need it, it will be a road car.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

103 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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Blummin' expensive for a non-GT Cayster though, and we don't know the impact of the GPF on the engine yet...


GT4P

5,188 posts

184 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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Sounds like they are going to share the same 4.0l engine with Gt4/spyder/gt3 which makes financial sense, don't care if doesn't come with GT suspension I will take mine with X73 and folding buckets, oh and manual of course as long as it is not that 7 speed affair in 991.
Imagine same price as 718gts circa £70k with right bits, still think Gt4 base will be about £85k so a 718/6 maybe the sweet spot.
Just a thought reminds me of the 914/4 and 914/6 scenario

Twinfan

10,125 posts

103 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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GT4P said:
Sounds like they are going to share the same 4.0l engine with Gt4/spyder/gt3
Except they will be detuned, so a detuned-detuned 4.0ltr engine. Doesn't sound great when you put it like that does it?

Yidwann

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1,872 posts

209 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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Twinfan said:
Except they will be detuned, so a detuned-detuned 4.0ltr engine. Doesn't sound great when you put it like that does it?
You have to take what you can get laugh

TDT

4,911 posts

118 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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Info i received on the weekend is that it will essentially be an engine option addition to the existing range.
Its not a GT car, and has the regular series chassis and options.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

103 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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Just like I said then smile

Any ideas on the donor car? Base/S/GTS/T?

GT4P

5,188 posts

184 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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We all know it's not going to be a full fat gt3 engine but the gt4 is being touted as a detuned gt3 engine which it will most likely won't be , but porsche will share the gt4 engine across as many cars as it can like before when the 3.8 was in the 997.2s/Gts and 991.1 s/Gts etc gt4/spyder.
Yes a detuned 4.0l doesn't sound great but if it's making around 400hp with the new throttle bodies it might not be too bad.
The third pillar sounds to me like a half way point between regular sports cars for the masses who don't care wether it's a 4 or 6 cylinder and GT cars ie something a bit more of a drivers car without the spoilers and track focus.
So a 718/6 slots in nicely , I mean will all miss Porsche making regular na flat6 caysters .It could be the missing link since the 987.2 and now with better steering and PCM than the 981.
We will just have to wait and see

TDT

4,911 posts

118 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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Twinfan said:
Just like I said then smile

Any ideas on the donor car? Base/S/GTS/T?
They are all the same? - there aren't any body in white differences between these cars - its just engine and suspension options?
If you mean in terms of package - I'd say that Porsche will likely trim the line down... someone said it before... basically a 4 and a 6. and then you choose your trim equipment level... so more package based?

That might make it easier for them to get through the WLTP regs.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

103 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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Sorry, yes I meant trim/wheel/suspension package e.g. GTS and T have alcantara, but Base and S do not. Base doesn't have S-PASM etc.

Probably to early to say what the '6' will have available?

Edited by Twinfan on Thursday 16th May 17:23

ags11

568 posts

139 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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anonymous said:
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This is the thing. Being able to buy a NA Cayman when a base 911 has a turbo 6 is a bit of a quandary? Badge snobbery and rear seats aside of course.
Will these "third option" line of cars include a non GT NA 911?
It'd certainly justify developing the engine for more units. How they'd do this without effecting sales of the turbos and keeping emissions targets, I dunno.. Production would have to be limited?

Bob-2146

286 posts

71 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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Will be limited run of 1200 due to emissions ?

https://www.porscheclubgb.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1029...

TDT

4,911 posts

118 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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Based on what i've understood that might be total production for 2019 especially considering that they won't be delivered until September earliest? They will then have further production in 2020.

Artificially limit supply or declare that there will be a limited number - get all of those sold and then produce some more next year.
Scarcity will be implied - which will keep the perception of exclusivity and value high. We have seen this a lot.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

103 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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I'd say that 1200 figure is for the UK for 2019. First batch of GT4, Spyder, Boxster-6 and Cayman-6 at 300 units each?

Yidwann

Original Poster:

1,872 posts

209 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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So get this.... sometimes I wonder how this happens! My plan was this weekend in between some revision to go to my local OPC for a chat and express some serious interest in a Cayman 6 and see what was what! Somehow that ended up turning into in between some revision finding the best deal on a Honda Jazz for my mates nan!

Life sometimes.....

Yidwann

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1,872 posts

209 months

Thursday 23rd May 2019
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Well I have been down to have a chat about it, and registered my interest so to speak, as expecting, nothing more currently on the info front, but I specced a GTS 718 how i'd like it, if I can get the spec as close to that as possible with a 6 in the back, I will be a happy camper! Gentian Blue in the flesh is lovely too!

http://www.porsche-code.com/PLG98Y11


Twinfan

10,125 posts

103 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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According to a single poster on Rennlist, the Cayman-6 and Boxster-6 are going to replace the current 718 GTS i.e. the facelifted/refreshed 718 GTS model will lose the F4T and gain a 400PS 4.0ltr flat six. The 718 GT4 and 718 Spyder will have a 4.0ltr flat six with 420PS.

Interesting. The info apparently came from a US OPC salesperson.

Yidwann

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209 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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Twinfan said:
According to a single poster on Rennlist, the Cayman-6 and Boxster-6 are going to replace the current 718 GTS i.e. the facelifted/refreshed 718 GTS model will lose the F4T and gain a 400PS 4.0ltr flat six. The 718 GT4 and 718 Spyder will have a 4.0ltr flat six with 420PS.

Interesting. The info apparently came from a US OPC salesperson.
This would make my day.... means my spec above would be good to go.