Michael Fassbender: Road to Le Mans

Michael Fassbender: Road to Le Mans

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NoBrakesWC

391 posts

48 months

Friday 2nd December 2022
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Been waiting for this

Blink982

760 posts

103 months

Saturday 3rd December 2022
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I’ve been waiting an age for this to appear. Watched episode 1 and 2 so far, utterly brilliant as usual.

pete

1,586 posts

283 months

Saturday 3rd December 2022
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But has he got his camping tickets sorted with the ACO yet?! wink

768

13,601 posts

95 months

Saturday 3rd December 2022
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I'm still pretty enthralled with the production quality of these, has anyone seen anything on the cameras, lenses, editing, etc?

Digga

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282 months

Saturday 3rd December 2022
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pete said:
But has he got his camping tickets sorted with the ACO yet?! wink
And bought his beer paddling pool? biggrin

stuthemong

2,260 posts

216 months

Saturday 3rd December 2022
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Highly recommended

Great stuff - really enjoyable

Digga

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282 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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Felt conflicted for Felipe Laser; must be a real feather in a driver’s cap to graduate from silver to gold classification, but gutted that it’s broken up the team. Him and Leitz (stunningly talented driver) we’re a great support for Fassbender.

It looked like Felipe is racing a prototype class car in the colours of the late Sabine Schmit’s husband, Claus Abelene’s team.

stuthemong

2,260 posts

216 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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Digga said:
Felt conflicted for Felipe Laser; must be a real feather in a driver’s cap to graduate from silver to gold classification, but gutted that it’s broken up the team. Him and Leitz (stunningly talented driver) we’re a great support for Fassbender.

It looked like Felipe is racing a prototype class car in the colours of the late Sabine Schmit’s husband, Claus Abelene’s team.
I don’t really know the details and what’s required to get rankings, and these documentaries always try to dramatisise and tell a story, but Leitz always came across a step above. Felipe, nice guy, but seemed a gulf in maturity, pace, temperament and leadership compared to Leitz. I hope Filipe does well and continues to grow, but for him I feel more time with Leitz would improve him, was he promoted before he was ready? I’m a big Leitz fan. I don’t see Felipe as close to Leitz (gold-plat).

Super happy Felipe got a good drive though. Definitely like the guy and seeing how he’s grown through the seasons, but not convinced he’s the capability to ever match a Leitz. It was, I think, in season 2 when fassbender was in a strop about not enough seat time, but then bottled wanting to qualy. Filipe with seat time then had a melt down about not wanting to qualy and, “fassbender can frikkin’ do it himself” ”. A lack of maturity and a bit of petulance showed from Felipe. I like think his concern was that in his position as a silver looking for gold, that a weak qualy performance was worse for his career than letting fassbender qualy poorly, that would make sense. But he should have said that, rather than being a dick to an overloaded and scared fassbender….

…Then the big dog. Leitz hopped in with no seat time at all, first Lap of the weekend in quali. P1. Hold my beer, kids. Heroic episode that and really interesting team dynamics and interpersonal pressures. Filipe did show his limitations there, and Leitz his class. A natural leader.

/random punditary based of watching a fun documentary.

Edited by stuthe on Sunday 4th December 10:10

Digga

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282 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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Yes, but we should remember, Leitz is probably one of the current best Porsche ‘factory’ drivers. Up with the likes of Estre.

NoBrakesWC

391 posts

48 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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Digga said:
Yes, but we should remember, Leitz is probably one of the current best Porsche ‘factory’ drivers. Up with the likes of Estre.
Makes me think why is he not driving for the factory team and put another factory driver in with Fassbender?

Dr S

4,995 posts

225 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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Digga said:
Yes, but we should remember, Leitz is probably one of the current best Porsche ‘factory’ drivers. Up with the likes of Estre.
Leitz surely is up there with the very best. It's a joy seeing his calm, focus and determination - that's what separates the merely very good from the great IMO

Leithen

10,799 posts

266 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Fascinating latest episode. Really shows what happens when a team gets pushed out of it's planned schedule with car problems and the knock on effects.

RDMcG

19,093 posts

206 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Illustrates well the difference between a great driver and a good one. ( BTW no question Fassbender is a vastly better driver than I am), but the sense of his being often struggling despite lots of coaching is quite honest.

The level at which these guys operate is just amazing, and when you think of (say) F1 it is unrecognizable. I have driven lots of tracks as a basic keep-out-of-the way amateur, but the series is a great illustration of just how difficult competitive motorsport is.

Well worth the view.

Digga

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282 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Fassbender lacks the inner psychopath that is many great driver’s mentor. Sometimes, all you are missing is self belief. He needs the team to pick him up.

I could not do half of what he’s done, but looking at it purely from a racing POV, I think the best can out doubt to the back of their minds. The very, very best can remain calm and calculated, at all times.

Leithen

10,799 posts

266 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Digga said:
Fassbender lacks the inner psychopath that is many great driver’s mentor. Sometimes, all you are missing is self belief. He needs the team to pick him up.

I could not do half of what he’s done, but looking at it purely from a racing POV, I think the best can out doubt to the back of their minds. The very, very best can remain calm and calculated, at all times.
I agree. I once made the foolish mistake of asking a racing driver which of the several cars he had raced was his favourite to drive.

"Whichever one I was able to win in on the day" was the reply.

It was all about winning, nothing else.

Digga

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40,206 posts

282 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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I used to do sprints and hill limbs. I guy I knew who’d started racing told me I should join him, saying “you’ll never be quick your own car”.

You have to have that attitude.

SL550M

589 posts

109 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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I must say it’s been a tremendously enjoyable series and my hat’s off to Michael Fassbender. He’s gone for it 100 per cent. I can’t help thinking he seems to be not enjoying himself quite as much in this latest series though. I wonder if it’s the sudden realisation of being slightly out of one’s depth, which happens to the vast majority of us who play sport at a decent level. There comes a time when the stress of knowing you’re not quite good enough somewhat taints the enjoyment of what you’re doing. I speak from experience, though not in racing. It’s an uncomfortable feeling.

Digga

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282 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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Yes, it’s common in many sports and disciplines; your ambition and love for it will invariably drive you to places where you are out of your depth. The moment a challenge is met and conquered, human nature pushes on to the next.

Yellow491

2,911 posts

118 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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Digga said:
Yes, it’s common in many sports and disciplines; your ambition and love for it will invariably drive you to places where you are out of your depth. The moment a challenge is met and conquered, human nature pushes on to the next.
So very true digga,some folk thrive on the feeling,the difference though with most sports ,if you get to uncomfortable you can simply stop or back off,unlike some adventure sports where if you commit and not quite good enough death is the potential outcome, thats the real adrenaline pumpersmile

Digga

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Sunday 18th December 2022
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Yellow491 said:
Digga said:
Yes, it’s common in many sports and disciplines; your ambition and love for it will invariably drive you to places where you are out of your depth. The moment a challenge is met and conquered, human nature pushes on to the next.
So very true digga,some folk thrive on the feeling,the difference though with most sports ,if you get to uncomfortable you can simply stop or back off,unlike some adventure sports where if you commit and not quite good enough death is the potential outcome, thats the real adrenaline pumpersmile
Yes, I discovered a bit about that, aged 18, the wrong way up the second pitch of a four pitch climb. Downclimbing when you know you have no gear in and the belay is crap. I thought I was dead, possibly my mate too, and knew I was the only one who could do anything about it. Turns out I don’t panic, but I never want to test that out again.