Engine Hoist Advice

[ukkid35]

I need to pull the engine, but I've been warned that the reach needed is greater than some hoists can manage

Can anyone confirm what hoist will do the job?

I don't have to worry about the gearbox/clutch as they have already been removed

The engine is completely freestanding on a platform in the engine bay

Any advice or offers of help would be extremely welcome

[ukkid35]

Demondad said:

Sorry to miss this but I might well pop down to join the gang. Mines in bits!

Would be great to hear from you Stuart as I can't PM you

[TwinKam]

Paul, you WILL need a 'long reach' one, a standard crane will not do it. If you look at (eg) Machine Mart's products you will see the alternatives listed as such. You'll only need the 1 tonne version, but unfortunately the 'LR' carries a 33% premium.
I made up a longer boom for my 'standard reach' one, but without a corresponding longer wheelbase, it was a bit precarious in use!
Although not essential for extraction in this instance, consider using a 'load leveller' when refitting.
Have fun!
Rik

[notaping]

You could go for the block'n'tackle A-frame option ….

[phillpot]

Would a "standard" hoist work if pushed in from one side rather than from the front?

[Jhonno]

I just approached from the side.

[PhilH42]

I used a 1 tonne switzer and it is possible but watch your paintwork!

[Jhonno]

phillpot said:

Would a "standard" hoist work if pushed in from one side rather than from the front?

Yes.

[TwinKam]

Jhonno said:

phillpot said:

Would a "standard" hoist work if pushed in from one side rather than from the front?

Yes.

Might be OK for just hoiking just an engine out (which is all that ukkid is doing at this stage) but the arc of lift is wrong, and the car can't be wheeled away so it needs plenty of side room to wheel the hoist away instead.
But this and the lack of fore/aft adjustment would make refitting much more awkward, and almost impossible to do with gearbox attached.
AIMHO

[ukkid35]

PhilH42 said:

I used a 1 tonne switzer and it is possible but watch your paintwork!

Jhonno said:

phillpot said:

Would a "standard" hoist work if pushed in from one side rather than from the front?

Yes.

Because of where I work, I can't gain proper access from the side

Therefore I've just returned a 1 ton Switzer, as the spec says reach is 1190mm, but that doesn't include the space taken by the hydraulics which probably take up at least 300mm

Distance from the front of the car to the centre of the engine is about 1200mm, so even the 2 ton Switzer which claims a reach of 1447mm would be very close

Wish I'd checked the measurements before buying...

A very generous PHer has offered to bring over the hoist he used so I will see how that works

[phillpot]

Little scaffold thingy and a chain block, reach over anything ...........

[FarmyardPants]

PH to the rescue again

Why do you need to remove the engine, or did I miss a thread?

[Jhonno]

ukkid35 said:

Because of where I work, I can't gain proper access from the side

Therefore I've just returned a 1 ton Switzer, as the spec says reach is 1190mm, but that doesn't include the space taken by the hydraulics which probably take up at least 300mm

Distance from the front of the car to the centre of the engine is about 1200mm, so even the 2 ton Switzer which claims a reach of 1447mm would be very close

Wish I'd checked the measurements before buying...

A very generous PHer has offered to bring over the hoist he used so I will see how that works

Could have made you a longer arm for it..

[ukkid35]

FarmyardPants said:

PH to the rescue again

Why do you need to remove the engine, or did I miss a thread?

Auxiliary Drive Shaft failed, at the point when everything else was working brilliantly, freshly remapped by Joolz

[Penelope Stopit]

Fork lifts are ideal for this job if you can borrow one

[FarmyardPants]

ukkid35 said:

FarmyardPants said:

PH to the rescue again

Why do you need to remove the engine, or did I miss a thread?

Auxiliary Drive Shaft failed, at the point when everything else was working brilliantly, freshly remapped by Joolz

Bummer.

[ukkid35]

FarmyardPants said:

Bummer.

You can hear that the engine really is working properly

https://youtu.be/x3Y1F1LwMB4?t=340

Sadly that was one of the last times I used the car

[ukkid35]

FarmyardPants said:

PH to the rescue again

In fact it should sound very familiar to you as we have basically the same setup

• Silverstone Performance Exhaust
• H Linked Decats
• 4.5 with Short Induction and Joolz remap

It will be very interesting to see how you fare at SRR, shame mine won't be on the rollers

[spitfire4v8]

I use a snap on / blue point low entry long reach crane and it still isn't enough for things like cerberas. I still have to use it from the side rather than the front. For the very few times I need to take an engine out though I don't consider it a massive hardship. If I was doing more engine builds I would definitely modify / extend it so it works better.

[TwinKam]

Regarding the extending of booms, I must reiterate my statement from above that, if you extend the boom on a 'standard' reach crane, you must consider the tipping point with the CofG of the load now beyond the front wheels (of the crane).
My new boom was 'only' 13" longer, but it was right on the limit of balance with engine and g'box on it, and I had to keep some of my weight on the back of the crane until the arc of the lift brought the weight back within the wheelbase! I didn't fully breathe until the load was clear of the body, and then lowered to safety.