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The link doesn’t like my ad blocker but some different photos than what BBC are showing here: https://www.railadvent.co.uk/2019/11/lner-disrupti...
Azuma hit HST. Azuma power car and therefore weight and momentum behind the driving vehicle, unlike the HST where the weight was in the vehicle hit. Hence the Azuma concertina. Hint always sit in the back half of a train to survive an accident. Unless the power car is right at the end (see Scotrail Cl47s pushmepullyous and cows and the class 91 and DVTs). In which case sit at the front. Unless it is a frontal impact, in which case use your car instead of a train.
T'is the difference in modern crash / crumple protection. Another Azuma is out of service after, sadly, a suicide, the body parts caused not dissimilar damage at the front and then damage to inter vehicle systems as they went under the train (that unit may be back up and running now, was a few weeks ago but defog went to NA for repair).
Nice to see the Pacer unharmed in Photo 2!
T'is the difference in modern crash / crumple protection. Another Azuma is out of service after, sadly, a suicide, the body parts caused not dissimilar damage at the front and then damage to inter vehicle systems as they went under the train (that unit may be back up and running now, was a few weeks ago but defog went to NA for repair).
Nice to see the Pacer unharmed in Photo 2!
StanleyT said:
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T'is the difference in modern crash / crumple protection. Another Azuma is out of service after, sadly, a suicide, the body parts caused not dissimilar damage at the front and then damage to inter vehicle systems as they went under the train (that unit may be back up and running now, was a few weeks ago but defog went to NA for repair).
Nice to see the Pacer unharmed in Photo 2!
Yeah it's fixed, I did some of the work.T'is the difference in modern crash / crumple protection. Another Azuma is out of service after, sadly, a suicide, the body parts caused not dissimilar damage at the front and then damage to inter vehicle systems as they went under the train (that unit may be back up and running now, was a few weeks ago but defog went to NA for repair).
Nice to see the Pacer unharmed in Photo 2!
Zoobeef said:
StanleyT said:
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T'is the difference in modern crash / crumple protection. Another Azuma is out of service after, sadly, a suicide, the body parts caused not dissimilar damage at the front and then damage to inter vehicle systems as they went under the train (that unit may be back up and running now, was a few weeks ago but defog went to NA for repair).
Nice to see the Pacer unharmed in Photo 2!
Yeah it's fixed, I did some of the work.T'is the difference in modern crash / crumple protection. Another Azuma is out of service after, sadly, a suicide, the body parts caused not dissimilar damage at the front and then damage to inter vehicle systems as they went under the train (that unit may be back up and running now, was a few weeks ago but defog went to NA for repair).
Nice to see the Pacer unharmed in Photo 2!
My best mates Dad at school got to recover the bodies off the rail line through our village - about 3/4 jumpers a year as the inter-cities came round a blind bend at full t
t on a downhill if not stopping at the station. After they introduced HSTs "a jumpers head" could be a mile from the bridge they jumped at. Respect for what must be a grim job tidying up. But the trains seemed to run on.
Zoobeef said:
StanleyT said:
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T'is the difference in modern crash / crumple protection. Another Azuma is out of service after, sadly, a suicide, the body parts caused not dissimilar damage at the front and then damage to inter vehicle systems as they went under the train (that unit may be back up and running now, was a few weeks ago but defog went to NA for repair).
Nice to see the Pacer unharmed in Photo 2!
Yeah it's fixed, I did some of the work.T'is the difference in modern crash / crumple protection. Another Azuma is out of service after, sadly, a suicide, the body parts caused not dissimilar damage at the front and then damage to inter vehicle systems as they went under the train (that unit may be back up and running now, was a few weeks ago but defog went to NA for repair).
Nice to see the Pacer unharmed in Photo 2!
Azuma driver was distracted by the TMS (on board computer system).
In years gone by, BR and then subsequent operators kept a stock of spare HST cabs, such was the damage they tend to incur in a smash it was usually easier just to unbolt the old cab and stick a new one on. The supply ran out a few years back, the last few major incidents requiring cabs to be built to order or very heavily repaired. One of GWR's clobbered a tree around New Year 2018 (I think!), and became the first power car to be written off after cab damage; the end was already nigh and it just wasn't worth the bother.
In years gone by, BR and then subsequent operators kept a stock of spare HST cabs, such was the damage they tend to incur in a smash it was usually easier just to unbolt the old cab and stick a new one on. The supply ran out a few years back, the last few major incidents requiring cabs to be built to order or very heavily repaired. One of GWR's clobbered a tree around New Year 2018 (I think!), and became the first power car to be written off after cab damage; the end was already nigh and it just wasn't worth the bother.
Edited by Southerner on Saturday 7th December 20:47
ecsrobin said:
The link doesn’t like my ad blocker but some different photos than what BBC are showing here: https://www.railadvent.co.uk/2019/11/lner-disrupti...
As an aside, the Johnson Press / JPI Media sites are a nightmare of adverts aren't they. I find the uBlock Origin ad blocker works well (for the moment anyway) on there. If they were more reasonable with their ads I wouldn't feel a need to use one, especially since I pay for one of their dead-tree papers.RoverP6B said:
I don't understand why they're scrapping HSTs, they're infinitely superior to their replacements and could easily be cascaded to secondary routes. They'd be most welcome on the Reading-Guildford-Redhill-Gatwick run!
Some are surviving in the southwest and Scotland I think running in a smaller configuration RoverP6B said:
I don't understand why they're scrapping HSTs, they're infinitely superior to their replacements and could easily be cascaded to secondary routes. They'd be most welcome on the Reading-Guildford-Redhill-Gatwick run!
among the problems is the impending disability legislation plus, I think, the lavs dumping waste on the track. The cost of the upgrade would have to be factored into any continuation in service.
RoverP6B said:
I don't understand why they're scrapping HSTs, they're infinitely superior to their replacements and could easily be cascaded to secondary routes. They'd be most welcome on the Reading-Guildford-Redhill-Gatwick run!
There’s a chance you will see them running up and down the east and west coast as 125mph parcel trains once converted and contracts sorted.Gassing Station | Boats, Planes & Trains | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff