718 GTS six cylinder
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A top of the range 6 pot 718 is appearing in lots of spy shots at the moment, I assume there may be an announcement at the Geneva show in March.
An obvious use for a detuned version of the 4.0 L as used in the new GT4 and a boost to the rest of the range, I personally would be very interested in the PDK version. Presumably HP would be 380 to 400 with similar performance to a MK 1 GT4
An obvious use for a detuned version of the 4.0 L as used in the new GT4 and a boost to the rest of the range, I personally would be very interested in the PDK version. Presumably HP would be 380 to 400 with similar performance to a MK 1 GT4
Gonzo0 said:
Heard from a reliable source that Cayman GTS 4.0 will be announced this month and manual only for time being due to WLTP.
Coincidentally Porsche USA have taken the Cayman GTS configurator offline.
Why would it be manual due to WLTP? PDK is far more likely for emissions stuff. And would differentiate from. GT4. Also, people would actually buy it Coincidentally Porsche USA have taken the Cayman GTS configurator offline.
4 pot 2.0 is staying to keep sales in China.
GTS going bigger as chinese won't buy the 2.5 anyway, and sales likely suffered.
This is solution to keep Chinese Europe and US sales before the model ends (becomes electric)... which i suspect won't be for a long while... hence the changes.
GTS going bigger as chinese won't buy the 2.5 anyway, and sales likely suffered.
This is solution to keep Chinese Europe and US sales before the model ends (becomes electric)... which i suspect won't be for a long while... hence the changes.
Gonzo0 said:
Heard from a reliable source that Cayman GTS 4.0 will be announced this month and manual only for time being due to WLTP.
Coincidentally Porsche USA have taken the Cayman GTS configurator offline.
The more 6pot manuals Porsche ban pump out before E-day the better in my book.Coincidentally Porsche USA have taken the Cayman GTS configurator offline.
Beefmeister said:
Gonzo0 said:
Heard from a reliable source that Cayman GTS 4.0 will be announced this month and manual only for time being due to WLTP.
Coincidentally Porsche USA have taken the Cayman GTS configurator offline.
Why would it be manual due to WLTP? PDK is far more likely for emissions stuff. And would differentiate from. GT4. Also, people would actually buy it Coincidentally Porsche USA have taken the Cayman GTS configurator offline.
Gonzo0 said:
WLTP rules mean its harder for manufactures to test and make all specs of a model more efficient. It was probably easier to get the manual more compliant first, plus i suspect manual may be the more popular option on a 4.0 GTS.
I would say the PDK would be by far the best seller if the manual has the same dire gearing.Not many 981 GTS had manuals, PDK was the seller of choice.
It makes sense for Porsche to release manual first as the new 4.0 going into the GTS is effectively the same 9A2 Evo engine as in the new GT4 which is currently paired to the manual box.
It was probably easier for Porsche to effectively use the same drivetrain pairing as in the GT4 and 'dump' it into the GTS. I suspect more development work is required to test the new engine with a PDK box.
My only concern with 4.0 GTS is the noise, it's surely going to be quieter than even the new GT4. I think I would be jumping straight to an aftermarket solution once it arrives. Damn tree huggers and there emissions regs!
It was probably easier for Porsche to effectively use the same drivetrain pairing as in the GT4 and 'dump' it into the GTS. I suspect more development work is required to test the new engine with a PDK box.
My only concern with 4.0 GTS is the noise, it's surely going to be quieter than even the new GT4. I think I would be jumping straight to an aftermarket solution once it arrives. Damn tree huggers and there emissions regs!
Gonzo0 said:
My only concern with 4.0 GTS is the noise, it's surely going to be quieter than even the new GT4. I think I would be jumping straight to an aftermarket solution once it arrives. Damn tree huggers and there emissions regs!
I really wouldn’t worry about the F-6 noise, once you’re on the move you don’t give it a second thought, especially as it cost over £3k to try to ‘fix’ it. It’s miles better than the F4T and at least sounds like a Porsche sports car should do, albeit quieter below 5k rpmAgreed - I'm really warming to the sound of the new engine. More induction than exhaust, plus it won't ps off the neighbours or make you look like a numpty in built up areas/towns etc...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES59xpcUo-U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES59xpcUo-U
I agree, people are too concerned about exhaust noise. Plus, if you really care, you can do something about it. You can't with a 4cyl!
My NSX makes virtually no exhaust noise; it's all induction noise, and it sounds wonderful. EVO also rated it above the 'noisy' 981 GT4, so go figure...
My NSX makes virtually no exhaust noise; it's all induction noise, and it sounds wonderful. EVO also rated it above the 'noisy' 981 GT4, so go figure...
I wonder if an unequal length manifold/exhaust system would at least give it a Subaru matching dugga-dugga sound.
I don’t think the F4T in my 718 Cayman 2.0 is that bad. A smidge-less good than my Golf R (it sound-o-nator noise thing). However, it is nowhere as good as my F4T Forester XT with its Haywood & Scott backbox - now that’s how a flat 4 should sound. Perhaps H&S should take on this challenge.
Noise aside, I’m sure the 718 betters the 981 in every other objective and subjective way. Clearly I’m biased.
I don’t think the F4T in my 718 Cayman 2.0 is that bad. A smidge-less good than my Golf R (it sound-o-nator noise thing). However, it is nowhere as good as my F4T Forester XT with its Haywood & Scott backbox - now that’s how a flat 4 should sound. Perhaps H&S should take on this challenge.
Noise aside, I’m sure the 718 betters the 981 in every other objective and subjective way. Clearly I’m biased.
churchie2856 said:
Noise aside, I’m sure the 718 betters the 981 in every other objective and subjective way. Clearly I’m biased.
NoSurely the 981 NA engine has to beat the 718 FI Flat 4 in terms of throttle response. Turbo motors have got better over the years but there has to be some lag.
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