RE: Honda Accord Euro R (CL7) | Spotted

RE: Honda Accord Euro R (CL7) | Spotted

Monday 24th February 2020

Honda Accord Euro R (CL7) | Spotted

Same powertrain as the DC5 Type R, subtle looks and genuine rarity - the Euro R is a forgotten JDM hero



You'd be forgiven for never having heard of the Honda Accord Euro R. Despite its name, the four-door was never officially sold outside of Japan and for one reason or another, it has remained a UK import curio. Maybe it's because this 220hp performance saloon shares many parts with the DC5 Integra Type R, a model that's both more famous and obviously sportier looking than the three-box Accord. The CL7-gen Euro R gets the same screamer of an engine, six-speed gearbox and limited slip differential as its stablemate, so it's certainly not lacking in technical appeal.

Nor has it ever been short of real-world appeal. Laden with 200kg over the Integra and EP3 Civic Type R, it's a slightly less focussed take on the usual VTEC-powered recipe. But with a proper saloon body, five seats and a cabin that mixes flashes of Type R (including a teardrop gear knob) with Accord functionality, it offers something a little more rounded too. We rather like the way it looks; there's nothing in the way of clutter - never a guarantee with JDM products - and the lowered stance and clean bootlid complete the look, helping it to ooze a similar sort of cool to a wingless Supra.


The model's larger footprint does actually give it some handling advantages, too. Where the EP3 and DC5 are renowned for their liveliness, the JDM Accord is considered more stable and predictable. So less fun then, but easier going across country. The Euro R is said to be more polished than the earlier Accord CL1, too, largely thanks to that car's use of Honda's H22A 2.2, an older unit that's not as refined as the K20 2.0-litre. As such, despite the retro image, CL1s don't seem to hold any more appeal than the CL7 Euro R.

Lovers of this sort of stuff may also be drawn to the Torneo Euro R, which also has 220hp and mixes sporting bits onto a JDM four-door frame. But the Torneo has a rear wing and aggressive bumpers to illustrate its ranking. The Accord remains the Q car of the family, opting to not flaunt its 7.3 second 0-62mph and 145mph capabilities. And let's not forget, Honda's VTEC hardware means you're almost getting two engines in one. Send the K20A's internals spinning towards that 8,000rpm (!) peak and it feels as racey as they come. But with a flatter (by VTEC standards) spread of its 152lb ft of torque, there's a refined, efficient engine beneath that gives this car significant daily appeal.


That being said, with so much to love and so few having made it to the UK, prices for second hand Euro Rs in Britain have been rock solid for several years. Just three are listed on the PH classifieds, with prices ranging from £7k and £9k. As a model almost exclusively owned by enthusiasts - because they're the ones who'd find a JDM Q car most appealing and, let's face it, who else would fork out so much for an old Accord? - each appears to be in good condition. Today's Spotted is the youngest and lowest mileage example, and the only one in white. The shade is Pearl White, not Championship White, but it adds to the authenticity of this hot Honda saloon. Combined with the technical highlights and that under-the-radar look, that's plenty JDM goodness for a tenner short of £9k.

SPECIFICATION - HONDA ACCORD EURO R (CL7)
Engine: 1,998cc, inline four
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 220@8,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 152@6,000rpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
Recorded mileage: 74,400
First registered: 2007
Price new: (JDM only)
Yours for: £8,990

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Jon_S_Rally

Original Poster:

3,403 posts

88 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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It's an interesting curio for sure, and I always quite liked the look of this generation of Accord, but it is probably a difficult car to justify. Contemporary rivals include the 330i, ST220 and the like, which are much more appealing to most buyers.

I think you'd have to really want one to buy one over one of the above. It's definitely an oddball though, which is one of the great things about the JDM world.

dpop

208 posts

132 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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My old man owned one of these from nearly new and put a good 120k miles on it, before moving on to something a bit more retirement-appropriate !

I loved finding any excuse to "borrow" it. Seem to remember it was relatively underwhelming in 1st (especially) and 2nd, and then had a wonderful turn of pace in 3rd (and 4th) once the vtec got going...

TheOrangePeril

778 posts

180 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Contemporary rivals include the 330i, ST220 and the like, which are much more appealing to most buyers.
Why do you think that? Between the VTEC engine and famed Honda reliability, this is surely drastically more desirable to most than (as much as I like them) an old BMW or Mondeo?

greenarrow

3,589 posts

117 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Interesting car indeed, but I wonder, how much more does it offer over, say the UK Type S, which can be picked up for a little over a grand these days. I'm sure its a far more driver focussed car than the Type S but that's a lot of extra dosh for an additional 30BHP.

greenarrow

3,589 posts

117 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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TheOrangePeril said:
Jon_S_Rally said:
Contemporary rivals include the 330i, ST220 and the like, which are much more appealing to most buyers.
Why do you think that? Between the VTEC engine and famed Honda reliability, this is surely drastically more desirable to most than (as much as I like them) an old BMW or Mondeo?
I guess those two cars are more rounded than the Accord and therefore have more general appeal. You've got to be fairly committed to opt for a low torque high revving n/a in what is a family saloon car.

NewUsername

925 posts

56 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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TheOrangePeril said:
Jon_S_Rally said:
Contemporary rivals include the 330i, ST220 and the like, which are much more appealing to most buyers.
Why do you think that? Between the VTEC engine and famed Honda reliability, this is surely drastically more desirable to most than (as much as I like them) an old BMW or Mondeo?
Id imagine an STT220 would be a faster, better handling more liveable car any day of the week

Arsecati

2,309 posts

117 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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That is a seriously handsome looking car - I wouldn't be in the market for that type of thing, but I can definitely see the appeal. I like it a lot.

Hippea

1,800 posts

69 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Jon_S_Rally said:
It's an interesting curio for sure, and I always quite liked the look of this generation of Accord, but it is probably a difficult car to justify. Contemporary rivals include the 330i, ST220 and the like, which are much more appealing to most buyers.

I think you'd have to really want one to buy one over one of the above. It's definitely an oddball though, which is one of the great things about the JDM world.
Running costs would probably be lower than the rivals, i would argue it would be much more reliable than a 330i for example

Jon_S_Rally

Original Poster:

3,403 posts

88 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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TheOrangePeril said:
Why do you think that? Between the VTEC engine and famed Honda reliability, this is surely drastically more desirable to most than (as much as I like them) an old BMW or Mondeo?
If that was the case, I suspect we would have seen a lot more of them imported to the UK. Despite their reliability, Honda products don't sell that well compared to most European rivals. Euro stuff is generally considered to be much nicer in terms of interiors and the like, while most petrol heads would probably take a six-pot over the revvy four in this type of car.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's an interesting car, but you can see why they are only here in tiny numbers.

clarki

1,313 posts

219 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Back in the day my brother ummed and ahhed about a Type R accord.

Went for a 6 MPS in the end. Think as a family chariot that was probably the better choice.

I preferred the honda but to be fair the mazda was a good car too. Certainly a fair bit quicker on the straight bits.

Loplop

1,937 posts

185 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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I've always liked these, but imho a CH1 Type R is a better buy and much cheaper.

Yes it's older, yes the gear ratios aren't ideal, yes they use oil and fuel like it's going out of fashion, but the only reason to buy a Euro R over something like a 6 MPS, ST220, 330i and the like is because it's a bit more raw and has that VTEC engine.

Get a VTEC controller and a 5th gear from a regular Accord and you've got a much more enjoyable B road weapon.

Leftfootwonder

1,116 posts

58 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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The CL7 Euro R is a great car and only not thought more highly of in this country because it was never sold here and so there were never any UK reviews etc. Great driving positon (which the standard Accord of the same vintage also had), huggy Recaros, great gearbox and VTEC - what's not to like?

asimmalik

167 posts

194 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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What's the road tax cost on one of these? And imported cars in general?

As some others have mentioned, you'd have to be a big fan to spend £9k on one of these.

EK9_CTR

464 posts

134 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Great cars. K20 is a brilliant engine and responds to mods very well. Lots of options should you wish to go down that route whether it's NA, turbo or supercharged.

£9k is steep IMO, if you're patient and keep your eyes peeled you can get a well looked after example somewhere in the £7k range via private sale.

And I've never seen that grille on a CL7 Euro R?

Spoon Sports used the CL7 for racing purposes as out the box I've been told it has a very good chassis and suspension configuration. There's a link to a detailed article somewhere.

Notanotherturbo

494 posts

207 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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With the exception of a DeLorean probably the most disappointing car I've ever driven. Weight and lack of torque meant unless you were in the VTec zone it was dreadfully slow and even when up and running wasn't all that quick. Great engine in a light car but I bet the 2.4i Accords were quicker over 80% of the rev range and you can buy those for under a grand smile.

foxhounduk

491 posts

180 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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You know, ever since I set eyes on these rare JDM type R's I have always dreamed of a rear wheel drive version. I just think they look the business, mean and subtle and the interior is classic, no nonsense, I JUST WISH Honda made these saloons RWD like the S2000 and NSX. If they did, I don't think I'd ever buy another car again. That engine is just immense.

XRMike

213 posts

126 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Nice looking car but way overpriced.

MDMA .

8,894 posts

101 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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XRMike said:
Nice looking car but way overpriced.
Needs 300bhp too.

Kewy

1,462 posts

94 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Had one of these for just over 3 years now.

Here’s my build thread if anyone is interested – https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Will be updating soon, I’ve recently had a baby so not been on the forums in a few months.

chelme

1,353 posts

170 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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XRMike said:
Nice looking car but way overpriced.
I second this. If it was 5k, yes, I'd get it. With so many miles on the clock....