The Collecting Cars Porsche thread…

The Collecting Cars Porsche thread…

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jjr1

3,023 posts

260 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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PorkInsider said:
birdcage said:
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2008-porsche-9...

Serviced at the 'local garage' and some over revs.

What does that say about it!
Completely coincidentally it's the same private seller as the 991.2 GT3 CS that's just sold.

Edit: this one's also gone over 3 years between its most recent services.



Edited by PorkInsider on Friday 26th November 19:41
The guy is a trader not a private

Nurburgsingh

5,118 posts

238 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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No mention of the Panamanian 991R that’s sold twice this year.
£222k in the summer and then £312k this week with 1 mile added to it.
The listing says sold at £222 again but I’m certain I saw it “winning bid £312”

That’s a hell of an appreciation for 1 mile

birdcage

Original Poster:

2,840 posts

205 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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I would be doing some serious independent inspection on anything expensive thats been serviced at a local garage.

A friend bought a Ferrari once from a well known specialist which turned out to have been rebuilt on the QT after an accident....By him..

993rsr

3,433 posts

249 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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Nurburgsingh said:
No mention of the Panamanian 991R that’s sold twice this year.
£222k in the summer and then £312k this week with 1 mile added to it.
The listing says sold at £222 again but I’m certain I saw it “winning bid £312”

That’s a hell of an appreciation for 1 mile
It went for £500 less this time.

easywelsh

31 posts

89 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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My auction ends Sunday night… Polar Silver 911 997.1 C2S

Nurburgsingh

5,118 posts

238 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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993rsr said:
Nurburgsingh said:
No mention of the Panamanian 991R that’s sold twice this year.
£222k in the summer and then £312k this week with 1 mile added to it.
The listing says sold at £222 again but I’m certain I saw it “winning bid £312”

That’s a hell of an appreciation for 1 mile
It went for £500 less this time.
Less than 222??
Looking at mobile.de that’s 100k less than the cars there.
I get that there’s VAT and import stuff but that’s not going to be 100k is it?



Wilmslowboy

4,208 posts

206 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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birdcage said:
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2008-porsche-9...

Serviced at the 'local garage' and some over revs.

What does that say about it!
Tyres look (could be my poor eye sight) to be date stamped 2007, 2010 and 2011.
(Perhaps an old spare set)

Also no MOT, don’t understand why seller would not do one before the sale, risk for the buyer if it comes back with a list of advisors, (especially after CC have taken their £6k)


julian987R

6,840 posts

59 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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Nurburgsingh said:
No mention of the Panamanian 991R that’s sold twice this year.
£222k in the summer and then £312k this week with 1 mile added to it.
The listing says sold at £222 again but I’m certain I saw it “winning bid £312”

That’s a hell of an appreciation for 1 mile
I think you are thinking of this

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2016-porsche-9...

whereas it was this earlier..

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2016-porsche-9...
£222,722
31/08/21
1,489 Miles

....and then again now
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2016-porsche-9...
£222,200
25/11/21
1,490 Miles

so thats £522 that 1 mile cost.






Nurburgsingh

5,118 posts

238 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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Ah yes…. Bugger, these things all look the same!!

993rsr

3,433 posts

249 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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julian987R

6,840 posts

59 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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993rsr said:
It’s too high maintenance. Anyone with that amount of money to spend on a car hasn’t got time for film-flam. It’s a £250k problem. Soon as you start reading the ad it’s a turn off. Why don’t they add a premium and/or clearly state they will manage the whole paperwork process. They may well do, but it reads like a problem not a solution.



Nurburgsingh

5,118 posts

238 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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Reads like they Ctrl+C - Ctrl +V from the CC ad

g7jhp

6,964 posts

238 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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julian987R said:
993rsr said:
It’s too high maintenance. Anyone with that amount of money to spend on a car hasn’t got time for film-flam. It’s a £250k problem. Soon as you start reading the ad it’s a turn off. Why don’t they add a premium and/or clearly state they will manage the whole paperwork process. They may well do, but it reads like a problem not a solution.

It's a LHD car so there's a good chance it will be bought by someone outside of the UK who doesn't want/ need to pay the VAT.

Therefore it works for both international and UK buyers. We live in a global market.

I'm sure if you were a real buyer (rather than a keyboard warrior) and gave them a call they'd walk you through the options.

MDL111

6,921 posts

177 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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g7jhp said:
julian987R said:
993rsr said:
It’s too high maintenance. Anyone with that amount of money to spend on a car hasn’t got time for film-flam. It’s a £250k problem. Soon as you start reading the ad it’s a turn off. Why don’t they add a premium and/or clearly state they will manage the whole paperwork process. They may well do, but it reads like a problem not a solution.

It's a LHD car so there's a good chance it will be bought by someone outside of the UK who doesn't want/ need to pay the VAT.

Therefore it works for both international and UK buyers. We live in a global market.

I'm sure if you were a real buyer (rather than a keyboard warrior) and gave them a call they'd walk you through the options.
I can see the potential attraction for somebody who does not have to pay any tax [as on many other cars you will either no longer have that option or it will be a hassle to claim it back], but - at least in Europe - that is a limited set of buyers.

Edit: just realised I was wrong - it is actually not cheaper than other cars on the market / so my whole might be worth the hassle for the saving thoughts are no longer relevant

Edited by MDL111 on Tuesday 30th November 08:11

marky911

4,417 posts

219 months

Wednesday 1st December 2021
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GT3Manthey said:
Wow 15k’s a lumpy pill to swallow . Wonder what needed doing
Looks like Mr Demon was right all along. whistlewink

Well 11 hours to go and it’s still sub £60k. (Plus the 6% obviously).


PorkInsider

5,886 posts

141 months

Wednesday 1st December 2021
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Reading the comments section on the 997 GT2 is becoming more 'interesting' by the day.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2008-porsche-9...

wobble

birdcage

Original Poster:

2,840 posts

205 months

Wednesday 1st December 2021
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PorkInsider said:
Reading the comments section on the 997 GT2 is becoming more 'interesting' by the day.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2008-porsche-9...

wobble
It's an easy car to crash and profitable to rebuild on the QT, not this one but generally

MDL111

6,921 posts

177 months

Wednesday 1st December 2021
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birdcage said:
PorkInsider said:
Reading the comments section on the 997 GT2 is becoming more 'interesting' by the day.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2008-porsche-9...

wobble
It's an easy car to crash and profitable to rebuild on the QT, not this one but generally
Awesome cars. Did c 10k km in mine in exactly 4 months (December to April) on Cup 1 tyres (drove all the way from Munich To Edinburgh in it and back again). Unfortunately then crashed it to the day 4 months after taking delivery on my way to Italy (should have bought winter tyres or even just new Cup 2 for it).
Long story short, the wreck was bought by somebody who shipped it to Italy to have it rebuilt / use parts to build a new full car out of a couple of wrecks - so parts of mine definitely lived on.

Would love another one if I ever have enough money again, but probably not as an only car / car to be used during winter …

Cheib

23,235 posts

175 months

Wednesday 1st December 2021
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g7jhp said:
julian987R said:
993rsr said:
It’s too high maintenance. Anyone with that amount of money to spend on a car hasn’t got time for film-flam. It’s a £250k problem. Soon as you start reading the ad it’s a turn off. Why don’t they add a premium and/or clearly state they will manage the whole paperwork process. They may well do, but it reads like a problem not a solution.

It's a LHD car so there's a good chance it will be bought by someone outside of the UK who doesn't want/ need to pay the VAT.

Therefore it works for both international and UK buyers. We live in a global market.

I'm sure if you were a real buyer (rather than a keyboard warrior) and gave them a call they'd walk you through the options.
You would hope but I rang and enquired about a car they had, specifically about the history. "It's got a massive file you are welcome to come and read it"....5- year old car so history/provenance quite relevant. I didn't waste the petrol...

Wilmslowboy

4,208 posts

206 months

Wednesday 1st December 2021
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marky911 said:
I’ll have a guess at £70k-£72k.

The collectors will be put off by the Cyprus code and it’s a Comfort. Nothing wrong with either, but to be £80k plus fees I think it would need to be a CS.

Lovely looking car though.

It’s amazing how little £15k seems to get you these days when using some of these specialists. yikes
£74,200 (inc fees) - Give that man a star !