Anyone thinking of ordering a facelift Macan?

[boombang]

tedblog said:

Car prices are irrelevant because of pcp,s
Its definitely £25k better than a Kia or Golf?

Yup agree better than any Golf and by £25k probably depending on what you want of a car.

For me I am not sure it is better than an Emira and a Soul EV on business lease/salary sacrifice though.

With regards PCP it has been a while since last did one, but my experience of them has been nothing down, 0% and a couple hundred a month. Sure the illustration I saw on the pre-facelift GTS was £15k+ down, 5%+, and many hundreds per month.

If got one I would be running it for well beyond the life of a PCP so it is less relevant when you need to front a chunk of deposit and a balloon.

[SuperPav]

130R said:

WG said:

Collapsible spare wheel £245 can only be ordered with Surface Coated Brakes at £ 2105 Why ???

WLTP probably

There's two collapsible spares available - 18" and 19".
18" is for cars with standard brakes, 19" for PSCB/PCCB.

[WG]

Ahh ! So even with 19 inch whels you can run an 18 inch spare-I assume that the rolling radius is the same then ?

[SuperPav]

WG said:

Ahh ! So even with 19 inch whels you can run an 18 inch spare-I assume that the rolling radius is the same then ?

Yes the temporary spare wheel size is driven purely by brakes.
The circumference of it is the same regardless of 18 or 19" or what wheels are fitted to the car.

[N111BJG]

SuperPav said:

WG said:

Ahh ! So even with 19 inch whels you can run an 18 inch spare-I assume that the rolling radius is the same then ?

Yes the temporary spare wheel size is driven purely by brakes.
The circumference of it is the same regardless of 18 or 19" or what wheels are fitted to the car.

Which means my 18 inch winters will be fine on new car

[SuperPav]

N111BJG said:

Which means my 18 inch winters will be fine on new car

Yes they should fit (unless it's a GTS).
The new Macan S brake size is the same as the outgoing model.

[Francois de La Rochefoucauld]

I ordered a Macan for my wife back in February, May delivery. Needless to say it still hasn't arrived, and the dealer has no idea when it will. Best guess according to the Porsche order system is October! Now, if it does ever materialise, will it be the old model or the new one!? This is my first foray into Porsche ownership, I'm less than impressed!

[aeropilot]

Francois de La Rochefoucauld said:

I ordered a Macan for my wife back in February, May delivery. Needless to say it still hasn't arrived, and the dealer has no idea when it will. Best guess according to the Porsche order system is October! Now, if it does ever materialise, will it be the old model or the new one!? This is my first foray into Porsche ownership, I'm less than impressed!

Depends if its been built or not at this moment in time.

Given the last previous gen models (as you ordered) will probably be rolling down the production line next week prior to the production line switch over to the new model from early Aug, I can't see how a previous build just before change over will still take to October to deliver....?
If they are saying Oct delivery, my guess is it will be a new model, but you would have thought Porsche should be able to confirm that, as your order spec might likely not be able to be met given the changes in colours/options etc.,etc now.
Its very poor that they can't confirm this. Does seem like a lot of other industries are having production and delivery issues as well though.
I'm waiting for a simple UPVC external door/frame to be made, originally 3-4 weeks, they said 3 months ago, now at 8 weeks since order, the factory still can't give a delivery date due to materials and staff shortages.

[5to1]

Francois de La Rochefoucauld said:

I ordered a Macan for my wife back in February, May delivery. Needless to say it still hasn't arrived, and the dealer has no idea when it will. Best guess according to the Porsche order system is October! Now, if it does ever materialise, will it be the old model or the new one!? This is my first foray into Porsche ownership, I'm less than impressed!

I'm not one to defend Porsche, as I've had some bad experiences with their OPC's. But in this case it seems to be an industry wide problem, hence the very strong second hand residuals right now. In fact it's an issue for many industry's due to the impact of COVID on production, semi conductor shortages, etc, etc.

On the plus side, many of us havent been driving as much, so that mitigates the issues to an extent. And Uber/Bolt have been bloody cheap, I've had 50-25% off promotions for most of the year.

[SuperPav]

Semi conductors (and now floods) affecting the whole industry currently, not just Porsche unfortunately. It's not great for anyone, (customers, dealers, importers, manufacturers) at the moment, and dealers are understandably also struggling to keep up with the changing situation everyday.

Pre-facelift cars are still going through production and will be for a short while alongside the new ones - the delays in production affected everything so it's all pushed back. Unless you've been told otherwise by your dealer, you will be receiving the (pre-facelift) car you ordered.

You'd know if your order's been converted to the new one as you'll get a new sales contract with the updated pricing/spec etc.

If you really don't want the "old" one and the spec hasn't been locked down yet you can always ask to pull your order and convert to a new 2022 model year one, although obviously that might mean delivery even later!

[5to1]

SuperPav said:

Semi conductors (and now floods) affecting the whole industry currently, not just Porsche unfortunately. It's not great for anyone.

Well there are a few exceptions

Punched in my 3 y/o Cayenne into WBAC and I can get out of it for a ~£9K loss. Since I'm not using it much for the foreseeable and my parents are barely using their lease (2k miles in 18m on 10k contract mileage), may aswell pop another order in and crystallise that loss before it reverts to the norm.

The only fly in the ointment is the imminent Cayenne facelift, would rather switch to that since no runout discounts, but would mean a longer wait

[Francois de La Rochefoucauld]

I've now cancelled my Macan S order. The dealer couldn't give me any indication as to when (if?) it might be delivered. The well known semi conductor shortage has been compounded by the devastating floods in Germany. Apparently, quite a few finished cars were written off, and their suspension component facility has been damaged.

Anyhow the dealer, Guildford, have done their best but I need a car by September. If anyone fancies a Macan slot give them a bell!

[Saweep]

Francois de La Rochefoucauld said:

I've now cancelled my Macan S order. The dealer couldn't give me any indication as to when (if?) it might be delivered. The well known semi conductor shortage has been compounded by the devastating floods in Germany. Apparently, quite a few finished cars were written off, and their suspension component facility has been damaged.

Anyhow the dealer, Guildford, have done their best but I need a car by September. If anyone fancies a Macan slot give them a bell!

We've just got back from our OPC to spec my Mrs'.

She's top of the list but won't get a car till November delivery.

[jzma]

Saweep said:

We've just got back from our OPC to spec my Mrs'.

She's top of the list but won't get a car till November delivery.

We are going on Saturday to do the same, have been told to order now for Summer delivery - when our current lease will go back.
I have to ask - did the dealer give any discounts or freebies?

[SuperPav]

Francois de La Rochefoucauld said:

I've now cancelled my Macan S order. The dealer couldn't give me any indication as to when (if?) it might be delivered. The well known semi conductor shortage has been compounded by the devastating floods in Germany. Apparently, quite a few finished cars were written off, and their suspension component facility has been damaged.

Anyhow the dealer, Guildford, have done their best but I need a car by September. If anyone fancies a Macan slot give them a bell!

Yes that is the case unfortunately - anything with PASM/air suspension is affected.
They should start coming through again from November onwards if no more setbacks, obviously it doesn't sound like that works for you timing wise.

[boombang]

Chased out order today and was told January at earliest depending on what their allocation turns out to be and where I sit in their queue.

Has become more important after someone decided to smash through my front door and take out current car.

[cc3]

Just ordered a new GTS delivery Q2 to replace current GTS.

[soxboy]

SuperPav said:

Yes that is the case unfortunately - anything with PASM/air suspension is affected.
They should start coming through again from November onwards if no more setbacks, obviously it doesn't sound like that works for you timing wise.

I was having a play on the configurator for a Macan ‘base’ yesterday, PASM and air suspension do not appear as options at the moment.

Also, does anyone know why the monthly payment calculator isn’t available at the moment? (Not just for Macan, also unavailable for Cayman).

[AAAndy]

soxboy said:

SuperPav said:

Yes that is the case unfortunately - anything with PASM/air suspension is affected.
They should start coming through again from November onwards if no more setbacks, obviously it doesn't sound like that works for you timing wise.

I was having a play on the configurator for a Macan ‘base’ yesterday, PASM and air suspension do not appear as options at the moment.

Also, does anyone know why the monthly payment calculator isn’t available at the moment? (Not just for Macan, also unavailable for Cayman).

I believe that some manufacturers are simplifying their production lines at the moment, so could be the same thing happening here.

For example Audi have removed the panoramic sun roof option from most cars, and are also shipping cars with only one key due to the chip shortage.

[neilf]

soxboy said:

I was having a play on the configurator for a Macan ‘base’ yesterday, PASM and air suspension do not appear as options at the moment.

Also, does anyone know why the monthly payment calculator isn’t available at the moment? (Not just for Macan, also unavailable for Cayman).

I spend way more time than is healthy on the configurator. The payment calculator seems to come and go across various models with no particular reason day by day.