Is this how it's going to be - Porsche hate??
Discussion
CrgT16 said:
I think it’s related to where you live and how you drive, one or the other or both, in general.
Around my neck of the woods no one bats an eyelid if what sports car you drive but, normally, bad drivers on big SUVs do not impress locals much. That is also my pet hate, people with big cats that cannot park or drive them correctly and respectfully in narrow country lanes. Regardless of that I don’t let my blood pressure rise over such trivial matters.
It has now gone beyond amazing me how drivers of off road capable vehicles seem to want to always maintain road contact on narrow lanes, no matter how firm and level the verge is.Around my neck of the woods no one bats an eyelid if what sports car you drive but, normally, bad drivers on big SUVs do not impress locals much. That is also my pet hate, people with big cats that cannot park or drive them correctly and respectfully in narrow country lanes. Regardless of that I don’t let my blood pressure rise over such trivial matters.
Chubbyross said:
I love my car and have absolutely nothing to prove to anyone.
This in spades. As for leaving your car somewhere vulnerable, I've got a massive car park ding in my passenger door, through to the metal in the middle with a lot of white scuffing, up high so pretty clearly from a white van. They would definitely have known that they did it. To a £10k, 20 year old car. I bet they felt so big and clever for teaching me a lesson.
fido said:
I've only had an old Porsche (968) but it did seem to attract admirers and haters. The former was a group of girls in a convertible making friendly gestures towards me. The latter was anything from being told "what an ugly car " by some fat bint at a Halfords tent
Hopefully you replied 'what an ugly bint'.SWoll said:
Shnozz said:
Pica-Pica said:
I find it’s HOW people drive not WHAT they drive that attracts any on-road comments/actions.
But then how do you account for my experience (and seemingly that of the OP). Other than a 2 year hiatus in a Porsche, I have driven TVRs, Lotus and Astons for 20 years. I didn't change driving behaviour for the 2 years I drove a Porsche.
Based on some of my wife's experiences over the years you should try being a woman driving certain cars. Regular aggression from what I assume are under endowed men seems to be a common occurrence.
Harry H said:
SteveStrange said:
Harry H said:
Chap I knew many many years ago got himself a brand new TR7 convertible. Sat there in the town centre traffic, shades on, top down thinking he's the canines genitalia and some old tramp walks over, picks up the rubbish bin and empties it in the back of his car.
He's sat there going no where, stinking to high heaven with the whole world laughing at him. Nice bloke but still makes me chuckle today even if it does make me nervous when driving a soft top.
Wearing sunglasses in a convertible? Wow. String him up. He's sat there going no where, stinking to high heaven with the whole world laughing at him. Nice bloke but still makes me chuckle today even if it does make me nervous when driving a soft top.
I'd say that was 100% jealousy/bitterness. Including from the "whole world" laughing at him. Be honest, that's why you laughed too isn't it? Because there's no other obvious, logical, or acceptable reason.
Harry H said:
SteveStrange said:
Harry H said:
Chap I knew many many years ago got himself a brand new TR7 convertible. Sat there in the town centre traffic, shades on, top down thinking he's the canines genitalia and some old tramp walks over, picks up the rubbish bin and empties it in the back of his car.
He's sat there going no where, stinking to high heaven with the whole world laughing at him. Nice bloke but still makes me chuckle today even if it does make me nervous when driving a soft top.
Wearing sunglasses in a convertible? Wow. String him up. He's sat there going no where, stinking to high heaven with the whole world laughing at him. Nice bloke but still makes me chuckle today even if it does make me nervous when driving a soft top.
I'd say that was 100% jealousy/bitterness. Including from the "whole world" laughing at him. Be honest, that's why you laughed too isn't it? Because there's no other obvious, logical, or acceptable reason.
Pica-Pica said:
SWoll said:
Shnozz said:
Pica-Pica said:
I find it’s HOW people drive not WHAT they drive that attracts any on-road comments/actions.
But then how do you account for my experience (and seemingly that of the OP). Other than a 2 year hiatus in a Porsche, I have driven TVRs, Lotus and Astons for 20 years. I didn't change driving behaviour for the 2 years I drove a Porsche.
Based on some of my wife's experiences over the years you should try being a woman driving certain cars. Regular aggression from what I assume are under endowed men seems to be a common occurrence.
SidewaysSi said:
Maybe it's my face (it's fecking ugly) but having a new bright red Porsche with a big wing on the back made me feel like a target in today's Britain.
Like you it ruined the enjoyment and ultimately the practicality of it as I just didn't feel comfortable leaving it parked up. And that was one of the main reasons for selling it.
I can only assume I'm much prettier than you then as having a bright red Porsche with a big wing, I can't think of any occasion I've been subject to grief or not let out. Then again my autism may prevent me understanding the rage being directed at me! Like you it ruined the enjoyment and ultimately the practicality of it as I just didn't feel comfortable leaving it parked up. And that was one of the main reasons for selling it.
It’s such a tired old cliche on here that people must be jealous of others with a nice car.
People trying to race you is a common and unwelcome issue but that happens as often to owners of cheap old sportsbikes as much as people in six figure Porsches.
As to the other stuff it is very much the hypersensitivity thing where people interpret the smallest actions by others as signs of jealousy or disdain. People aren’t always pleasant so scrape a kerb with the nose or attempt a risky parallel park and you’ll be guaranteed an audience.
People trying to race you is a common and unwelcome issue but that happens as often to owners of cheap old sportsbikes as much as people in six figure Porsches.
As to the other stuff it is very much the hypersensitivity thing where people interpret the smallest actions by others as signs of jealousy or disdain. People aren’t always pleasant so scrape a kerb with the nose or attempt a risky parallel park and you’ll be guaranteed an audience.
GT03ROB said:
SidewaysSi said:
Maybe it's my face (it's fecking ugly) but having a new bright red Porsche with a big wing on the back made me feel like a target in today's Britain.
Like you it ruined the enjoyment and ultimately the practicality of it as I just didn't feel comfortable leaving it parked up. And that was one of the main reasons for selling it.
I can only assume I'm much prettier than you then as having a bright red Porsche with a big wing, I can't think of any occasion I've been subject to grief or not let out. Then again my autism may prevent me understanding the rage being directed at me! Like you it ruined the enjoyment and ultimately the practicality of it as I just didn't feel comfortable leaving it parked up. And that was one of the main reasons for selling it.
My boggo looking 996 literally gets very little reaction which I much prefer. Life's too short for this kind of st.
SWoll said:
Pica-Pica said:
SWoll said:
Shnozz said:
Pica-Pica said:
I find it’s HOW people drive not WHAT they drive that attracts any on-road comments/actions.
But then how do you account for my experience (and seemingly that of the OP). Other than a 2 year hiatus in a Porsche, I have driven TVRs, Lotus and Astons for 20 years. I didn't change driving behaviour for the 2 years I drove a Porsche.
Based on some of my wife's experiences over the years you should try being a woman driving certain cars. Regular aggression from what I assume are under endowed men seems to be a common occurrence.
Wasn't imagined glances or road actions, but verbal and some frankly bizarre insults where people felt the need that they had to make it known to me. Never had it with any of the other nicer cars, in fact quite the opposite. Same for being let out of junctions etc. Only ever recall one "incident" of dislike in all those years, and that was an old lady who shook her fist complaining of my "speed" in a TVR, where it was simply the noisy exhaust giving the impression of speed rather than the speed itself, as I was within the limit and in a line of traffic.
SW London with a 996 Turbo here. The only things I have noticed is 1 lady telling me it was a lovely car when I'd just bought it, and the occasional young boy (10-13 yr olds I guess) pointing excitedly or walking into the back of their parents because they're looking at the car and not where they're going.
The exhaust is standard, so moderately loud (compared to the average car) and the wing is only up if on motorways or at car meets.
It's also unwashed, so people assume I don't give a st. It still has Sahara sand on it. Actually, it rained this morning so it might be cleaner than when I last saw it. I like my cars like I like my women...
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The exhaust is standard, so moderately loud (compared to the average car) and the wing is only up if on motorways or at car meets.
It's also unwashed, so people assume I don't give a st. It still has Sahara sand on it. Actually, it rained this morning so it might be cleaner than when I last saw it. I like my cars like I like my women...
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Edited by Hoofy on Tuesday 29th March 13:37
What colour is your car?
I could write a book about the different attitudes I've received based on the colour of my cars. Never mind the different brands.
It took me 15 minutes of ownership of an orange 997 RS to get a hand signal, but I got nothing but positivity for my white 997 GT3. My current 992 in aventurine also get loads of love.
I could write a book about the different attitudes I've received based on the colour of my cars. Never mind the different brands.
It took me 15 minutes of ownership of an orange 997 RS to get a hand signal, but I got nothing but positivity for my white 997 GT3. My current 992 in aventurine also get loads of love.
The racing thing is not related to it being a Porsche, I had a Focus ST for 18 months, that attracted the racing crowd like flies to ste!
My 987 Cayman did attract some hate, the worse was while waiting for recovery outside the secure car park of work in a not great area of town when the gear cables broke. But it did attract hate in some other places as well, the Westfield and Elise that came before never had that problem.
I have just replaced the Cayman with a M2, that just seems to pass most people by so far, unless you start it up!
My 987 Cayman did attract some hate, the worse was while waiting for recovery outside the secure car park of work in a not great area of town when the gear cables broke. But it did attract hate in some other places as well, the Westfield and Elise that came before never had that problem.
I have just replaced the Cayman with a M2, that just seems to pass most people by so far, unless you start it up!
Porsche GTs are very colour sensitive regarding the attention they garner. My old Red GT4 and Yellow GT3 were sometimes subjected to bad behaviour by fellow motorists mainly by boy racers wanting to race. One of said imbeciles ended up writing his ste box off whilst attempting to overtake my Yellow GT3 on a blind left hand bend on a freezing Friday night back in December 2017.
Hence the reason I chose subtle Black for my current RS WP where I've never received bad behaviour despite having a massively bigger wing.
Strangely only get admiration when out in my Ferraris including a Red 812 as they seem to intimidate other drivers into being polite. Brightly coloured Porsches with big wings are cars which I avoid buying.
I also never drive sports cars in busy urban environments which is just asking for coffee beans handshakes.
Hence the reason I chose subtle Black for my current RS WP where I've never received bad behaviour despite having a massively bigger wing.
Strangely only get admiration when out in my Ferraris including a Red 812 as they seem to intimidate other drivers into being polite. Brightly coloured Porsches with big wings are cars which I avoid buying.
I also never drive sports cars in busy urban environments which is just asking for coffee beans handshakes.
limpsfield said:
The only abuse I have ever had was when I had a bright yellow Elise. Stuck in traffic, some bloke travelling in the opposite direction shouted the C word at me.
Girlfriend at the time said “maybe he knows you”
Never heard of a Lotus driver being called a Chav before......Girlfriend at the time said “maybe he knows you”
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