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tescor said:
August SMMT figures are out, and it was an almost 42% drop compared to last year for Porsche...
https://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrati...
Here's a record of the last 11 months...
YTD sales are down 28.9%
actual figure is much worse.....if you take out all the cars opc's keep registering. only going to get worse for them in coming monthshttps://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrati...
Here's a record of the last 11 months...
YTD sales are down 28.9%
What I took from reading that SSO report is that 911 is struggling. Taycan declining sales are potentially a disaster for Porsche and demand for an EV Cayman is uncertain.
What is clear is that Porsche, if you haven’t already realised this, is first and foremost sadly now an SUV dealer. No longer is it primarily a sports car brand. And this will undoubtedly increase will the intro of the Macan EV which it is betting the house on coming to the rescue.
What is clear is that Porsche, if you haven’t already realised this, is first and foremost sadly now an SUV dealer. No longer is it primarily a sports car brand. And this will undoubtedly increase will the intro of the Macan EV which it is betting the house on coming to the rescue.
I spoke to an owner of a lovely looking 992 T last week he bought it pre registered off the showroom floor.
I mentioned I considered the first 911T model when it came out and he had had a yellow one of those from new.
He said he got a good discount off the 992 T, he didn’t mention a figure, but said the cost to change was the price difference in list price of the two, so his discount was the equivalent of the depreciation he had since 2018.
I mentioned I considered the first 911T model when it came out and he had had a yellow one of those from new.
He said he got a good discount off the 992 T, he didn’t mention a figure, but said the cost to change was the price difference in list price of the two, so his discount was the equivalent of the depreciation he had since 2018.
Mezgerking said:
What I took from reading that SSO report is that 911 is struggling. Taycan declining sales are potentially a disaster for Porsche and demand for an EV Cayman is uncertain.
What is clear is that Porsche, if you haven’t already realised this, is first and foremost sadly now an SUV dealer. No longer is it primarily a sports car brand. And this will undoubtedly increase will the intro of the Macan EV which it is betting the house on coming to the rescue.
I’ve been saying this for some time, Porsche are a SUV volume manufacturer. The Cayenne saved them all those years ago and the Macan allowed them to get a bigger chunk of the global SUV cake. The ev Taycan and new ev Macan could look to undo all that work. What is clear is that Porsche, if you haven’t already realised this, is first and foremost sadly now an SUV dealer. No longer is it primarily a sports car brand. And this will undoubtedly increase will the intro of the Macan EV which it is betting the house on coming to the rescue.
We had 3 new macans (still have one) and 1 new Cayenne, we have zero interest in buying the new electric Macan or Taycan.
I personally think the ice Macan is a great all round car, especially the gts. But we wouldn’t order another new one due to the platform bring so old. Shocked they haven’t developed the new ice Macan.
Be interesting to see how much further their share price will fall, over the last 6 months it’s taken a kicking.
GT4RS said:
I’ve been saying this for some time, Porsche are a SUV volume manufacturer. The Cayenne saved them all those years ago and the Macan allowed them to get a bigger chunk of the global SUV cake. The ev Taycan and new ev Macan could look to undo all that work.
We had 3 new macans (still have one) and 1 new Cayenne, we have zero interest in buying the new electric Macan or Taycan.
I personally think the ice Macan is a great all round car, especially the gts. But we wouldn’t order another new one due to the platform bring so old. Shocked they haven’t developed the new ice Macan.
Be interesting to see how much further their share price will fall, over the last 6 months it’s taken a kicking.
We have a MY23 Macan GTS & MY23 Cayman 718 GT4. Full high spec on both as the GT4 no longer in production & Macan GTS days are numbered. Both are fabulous cars & looks like they could be forever cars as not interested in EV’s and as a private buyer with high costs & poor dependents makes no sense.
We had 3 new macans (still have one) and 1 new Cayenne, we have zero interest in buying the new electric Macan or Taycan.
I personally think the ice Macan is a great all round car, especially the gts. But we wouldn’t order another new one due to the platform bring so old. Shocked they haven’t developed the new ice Macan.
Be interesting to see how much further their share price will fall, over the last 6 months it’s taken a kicking.
We have a MY23 Macan GTS & MY23 Cayman 718 GT4. Full high spec on both as the GT4 no longer in production & Macan GTS days are numbered. Both are fabulous cars & looks like they could be forever cars as not interested in EV’s and as a private buyer with high costs & poor dependents makes no sense.
Edited by Augustash on Saturday 7th September 10:53
Augustash said:
GT4RS said:
I’ve been saying this for some time, Porsche are a SUV volume manufacturer. The Cayenne saved them all those years ago and the Macan allowed them to get a bigger chunk of the global SUV cake. The ev Taycan and new ev Macan could look to undo all that work.
We had 3 new macans (still have one) and 1 new Cayenne, we have zero interest in buying the new electric Macan or Taycan.
I personally think the ice Macan is a great all round car, especially the gts. But we wouldn’t order another new one due to the platform bring so old. Shocked they haven’t developed the new ice Macan.
Be interesting to see how much further their share price will fall, over the last 6 months it’s taken a kicking.
We have a MY23 Macan GTS & MY23 Cayman 718 GT4. Full high spec on both as the GT4 no longer in production & Macan GTS days are numbered. Both are fabulous cars & looks like they could be forever cars as not interested in EV’s and as a private buyer with high costs & poor dependents makes no sense.
We had 3 new macans (still have one) and 1 new Cayenne, we have zero interest in buying the new electric Macan or Taycan.
I personally think the ice Macan is a great all round car, especially the gts. But we wouldn’t order another new one due to the platform bring so old. Shocked they haven’t developed the new ice Macan.
Be interesting to see how much further their share price will fall, over the last 6 months it’s taken a kicking.
We have a MY23 Macan GTS & MY23 Cayman 718 GT4. Full high spec on both as the GT4 no longer in production & Macan GTS days are numbered. Both are fabulous cars & looks like they could be forever cars as not interested in EV’s and as a private buyer with high costs & poor dependents makes no sense.
Edited by Augustash on Saturday 7th September 10:53
My favourite new porsche owned was actually my first back in 2009. A simple 2.9 manual 987 boxster, in my opinion this was when they still made an old porsche. When we changed the 997 2s to a 991.1 4s it was at that point I could tell VW engineering was coming into play. It was around then you could also see the changes in the opc and it became all about sakes volume at maximum profit.
We still have the Macan GTS, will be a difficult car to replace. It’s been flawless.
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