944 on the water....:(

[thom]

I experienced with a certain bitterness last summer that my beloved and cherished 944s2 had a ridiculously bad roadholding in puddles....(if adherence hadn't come back my car would have fusioned with a tree)
Did some of you guys experience the same?

>>> Edited by thom on Friday 16th November 16:53

[domster]

I wrapped a 944 Turbo into a try once in the wet. It had the Bilstein sport pack and was awesome in the dry when set up for a corner, but would bite back in the wet or when provoked (trailing throttle etc).

My 944S2 convertible was far too soft to oversteer, even in the wet. It would only understeer.

If you are worried about your S2 in the wet, buy a convertible!

Rgds
Domster

[thom]

oh yeah but I really don't like the lines of the convertible, I think the rear looks too thick
What tires do you use?

[domster]

I used to use Goodyear Eagle F1s - but that didn't stop me spinning into the undergrowth in the wet!

I'm sure you could get the same suspension set up as a convertible for your S2 if you really wanted, although the extra weight at the back of the convertible may have helped keep it planted.

[thom]

Well I don't think I'll venture on making some set ups...I like my car for it's completely original:I bought it in Germany and it has a sticker "super bleifrei" on the right rear window which,I think, tells all about where it comes from;I like authenticity
Anyway thanks for the information
Oh yes, something else I'd like to know:which are the best places to go to in Great Britain for spare parts (if ever I hit that tree after all...)

Edited by thom on Friday 16th November 19:50

[Fatboy]

If you feel the back's a bit lively, try the old Q-car capri trick - a couple of bags of sand in the boot,get more weight over the rear wheels

[davidy]

Isn't super bleifrei Super Unleaded??

[ATG]

du habst richtig (?). super bleifrei = Super unleaded
Don't think thom meant it came from a town called super bleifrei.

Having said that, I used to think there was a town in Wales called Llandranger ... coz isn't that what it says on the OS 1:50,000 maps??

[WalterU]

quote:
du habst richtig (?). super bleifrei = Super unleaded
Don't think thom meant it came from a town called super bleifrei.

Having said that, I used to think there was a town in Wales called Llandranger ... coz isn't that what it says on the OS 1:50,000 maps??

correct, it means super unleaded.

I once drove an englishman through the Ruhr area. He had never been there before. After a while he muttered

"God, I know you have big cities here, but this one must be enormous. Every exit for the last 50 miles has been to Ausfahrt. How many inhabitants does Ausfahrt have?"

Or was he having me on?!?

Rgds, WalterU

[stuart2000]

Hi chaps, are any of you members of the Porsche club(PCGB), the 944 register may be able to help.

Stu.

[thom]

quote:
If you feel the back's a bit lively, try the old Q-car capri trick - a couple of bags of sand in the boot,get more weight over the rear wheels

It sounds a pretty good idea but actually the problem is not the back being too lively but both front end and back end are too lively: I think there is a too much important lack of mass in the "middle" of the car

[JSG]

quote:
I think there is a too much important lack of mass in the "middle" of the car

Not if I was driving it.

[Fatboy]

Even simpler to fix, just follow JSG's example and eat more

(Or how about a couple of bags of sand under the front seats? Not too sure of how safe this would be though)

[domster]

Hang on a mo... weight in the front, weight in the back and now weight in the middle... might as well buy a big fat arsed Bentley Azure (kerb weight almost 3 tonnes!) and be done with it.

All the 944 needed was slightly softer dampers at the rear, and maybe fatter tyres. I was running the non-SE width rubber (225 not 255 if I remember, or was it 205 rather than 225?).

The weight distribution in a 944 is rather good, simply cos the transaxle/gearbox is overhanging the rear wheels. Almost 50/50 I think.

No sand needed!

Or sandwiches needed, in the case of JSG.... ;-)



Edited by domster on Monday 26th November 15:49

[thom]

quote:
Even simpler to fix, just follow JSG's example and eat more

Well my weight is 65kgs and I know I should be at least 85kgs...
but getting heavier might not improve the balance in curves I think:
the other day I drove my cousin (110kgs) and still the rear unscrewd in a tight curve (which my cousin will remember all his life I'm afraid