New Porsche Cayenne Diesel

[anonymous-user]

If you guys were buying a replacement now would you still go with the diesel or change to petrol?

Just asking as I'm looking at a 4x4 as the next family car.

[Phooey]

I’ve heard Porsche will make a 3.0 diesel. I’d be tempted by the petrol S though - supposed to be excellent and very quick. I’d also be tempted by the new AMG GLC 63 - wow it looks good!

[pete]

garyhun said:

If you guys were buying a replacement now would you still go with the diesel or change to petrol?

I’m replacing my 2014 3.0 Cayenne diesel with a new petrol S. I only fill the Cayenne with diesel once a month at the moment, so it won’t be a hardship to change that to once every 3 weeks in exchange for another 200bhp or so :-)

[Burwood]

garyhun said:

If you guys were buying a replacement now would you still go with the diesel or change to petrol?

Just asking as I'm looking at a 4x4 as the next family car.

It used to be that the petrols would depreciate quite a bit more but I don’t see this being the case, now. I’d be very tempted by a petrol.

[Cheib]

garyhun said:

If you guys were buying a replacement now would you still go with the diesel or change to petrol?

Just asking as I'm looking at a 4x4 as the next family car.

All about your mileage I think...doing less than 10k a year I think petrol. We’re in the 15k plus bracket though.

[Fokker]

CayenneWkr said:

Tried that, no good.

Any tips for rattling seats very welcome. Sound of leather squeaking together, very annoying. Cayenne is unusual in that the back seats don't secure against the chassis at the top when in the upright position.

I had this issue and played about with the air con settings in the dash display. Turned the central vents off and possibly something else down on the air con settings? I'm currently abroad but I'll check when I get home.

[Burwood]

Cheib said:

garyhun said:

If you guys were buying a replacement now would you still go with the diesel or change to petrol?

Just asking as I'm looking at a 4x4 as the next family car.

All about your mileage I think...doing less than 10k a year I think petrol. We’re in the 15k plus bracket though.

Been repeated for years, and incorrect. Residuals play a big part. Petrols lose a log more, historically.

[Cobnapint]

I'd go for diesel again, as long as they don't go back on their word that EU6 diesels won't be affected by the new policy announcement coming up in the autumn statement.

But we won't know that until Wednesday.

[Cheib]

Burwood said:

Cheib said:

garyhun said:

If you guys were buying a replacement now would you still go with the diesel or change to petrol?

Just asking as I'm looking at a 4x4 as the next family car.

All about your mileage I think...doing less than 10k a year I think petrol. We’re in the 15k plus bracket though.

Been repeated for years, and incorrect. Residuals play a big part. Petrols lose a log more, historically.

I wasn't talking historically though...and I've said on several threads I think the whole Diesel thing is overblown. It's not going away because quite simply they can't refine a barrel of oil just to make petrol....a decent % of every barre refined is diesel and that has to get used. So if demand goes down it'll get cheaper.

[Burwood]

I don’t disagree

[MOORO]

Also likely to be a big real World difference in MPG. I would imagine the petrol will not do much over 20 MPG, whereas the Diesel should be well into the 30's plus the torque will suit the car better. Nothing against petrol's, just trying to give a realistic view....

[Cheib]

MOORO said:

Diesel should be well into the 30's plus the torque will suit the car better. Nothing against petrol's, just trying to give a realistic view....

This is the point....Diesel's in the way they produce their power really do suit a big unit like the Cayenne...unless it's a very powerful petrol unit. That said I've not driven a modern petrol turbo engined like that in the new Cayenne.

[anonymous-user]

What would people suggest as the best suspension and wheel size combination for the most comfortable ride?

I'm going to test drive with and without air if possible but keen to hear real life experiences.

Thanks!

[Phooey]

garyhun said:

What would people suggest as the best suspension and wheel size combination for the most comfortable ride?

I'm going to test drive with and without air if possible but keen to hear real life experiences.

Thanks!

Are we talking new 2018 Cayenne or current? I have air and 21's on current shape and ride is very comfortable - It won't waft along like a RR but it feels sportier to drive. I've only got experience (50k miles) of air-sus and have never felt the ride is lacking in any department. I think, and from what i've been told, the only issue with ride comfort is when you have big wheels (21") and no upgrade suspension whatsoever (Air+PASM or just PASM). So basically if you are going for big wheels just make sure it has at least PASM and ride will be fine. Obviously a 19 or 20" wheel will/should be better still (bigger tyre wall = more comfort) but IMO the Cayenne ascetically looks much better with the bigger wheel options.

I have no experience of 2018 Cayenne but did read somewhere (I think it was a Youtube vid) that the new generation air-sus is excellent and improved, so if I was going 2018 I would probably want air + 21" wheels.

[Fokker]

Phooey said:

garyhun said:

What would people suggest as the best suspension and wheel size combination for the most comfortable ride?

I'm going to test drive with and without air if possible but keen to hear real life experiences.

Thanks!

Are we talking new 2018 Cayenne or current? I have air and 21's on current shape and ride is very comfortable - It won't waft along like a RR but it feels sportier to drive. I've only got experience (50k miles) of air-sus and have never felt the ride is lacking in any department. I think, and from what i've been told, the only issue with ride comfort is when you have big wheels (21") and no upgrade suspension whatsoever (Air+PASM or just PASM). So basically if you are going for big wheels just make sure it has at least PASM and ride will be fine. Obviously a 19 or 20" wheel will/should be better still (bigger tyre wall = more comfort) but IMO the Cayenne ascetically looks much better with the bigger wheel options.

I have no experience of 2018 Cayenne but did read somewhere (I think it was a Youtube vid) that the new generation air-sus is excellent and improved, so if I was going 2018 I would probably want air + 21" wheels.

The carfection review with Catchpole on the turbo said the new air 3 pocket suspension wasn't as good and didn't give as good feel for a sporty drive if I recall correctly. Better for comfort not as good in the corners.

[jh001ace]

garyhun said:

If you guys were buying a replacement now would you still go with the diesel or change to petrol?

Just asking as I'm looking at a 4x4 as the next family car.

I’ve had both a diesel s and a v6 d, new one will be a petrol turbo, I can see the popularity of diesels tailing off in the next few years due to political pressures, there will always be people who need/want a diesel but I feel the numbers will be reducing.

[Phooey]

Fokker said:

The carfection review with Catchpole on the turbo said the new air 3 pocket suspension wasn't as good and didn't give as good feel for a sporty drive if I recall correctly. Better for comfort not as good in the corners.

Just watched the vid. He says the new car "really is better in ride comfort" than the previous model which I think is what the OP is wanting. The comfort has been improved at the expense of feedback from the chassis / steering I think is what he is saying. Tbh I always take reviews with a pinch of salt - I don't know how someone with a short test drive can compare models without having some long-term bum in seat usage at the same time on the same roads etc etc. I would rather rest assured that if Porsche have redeveloped an option (like suspension) that it will be better than the old one.

[Phooey]

jh001ace said:

I’ve had both a diesel s and a v6 d, new one will be a petrol turbo, I can see the popularity of diesels tailing off in the next few years due to political pressures, there will always be people who need/want a diesel but I feel the numbers will be reducing.

The market for big diesels will always be strong until petrol models can offer same or very similar mpg. I've averaged nearly 40mpg in just over 3 years and 50k miles from my Cayenne V6d and as much as I like the new Cayenne I wouldn't buy one that does low twenties.

[MOORO]

I have a petrol turbo Macan which is lighter than the Cayenne and I struggle to get low 20’s mpg driving sensibly. I can defo see diesels being less popular with political pressure, but for everyday use the diesel would suit the Cayenne best. Who knows on residuals with diesels from now on, I would be interested to see real World mpg with the new Cayenne petrols, I bet nowhere near the quoted figures and realistically getting on for half of the diesel mpg!

[anonymous-user]

Thanks for all the informative posts, much appreciated.