New Porsche Cayenne Diesel

[NomduJour]

Discovery? They're very different cars, hardly alternatives.

RRS has a broader range of abilities than a Cayenne - strongly suspect 99% of Cayenne customers would be better off in a 5 Series estate given how they're used. But, SUVs are trendy...

Edited by NomduJour on Friday 2nd March 12:35

[Spice_Weasel]

Agree on the build quality vs LR products. Mrs W works for JLR (albeit as a contractor) and would prefer another Cayenne over a new Disco or RRS.

How are used values of Cayenne Diesels holding up? I'd expect them to start climbing, at least until diesel fuel prices get further clobbered.

[GameofCars]

NomduJour said:

Discovery? They're very different cars, hardly alternatives.

RRS has a broader range of abilities than a Cayenne - strongly suspect 99% of Cayenne customers would be better off in a 5 Series estate given how they're used. But, SUVs are trendy...

Edited by NomduJour on Friday 2nd March 12:35

My wife tows the horse trailer - the Cayenne is very capable. We moved from LR to a new Cayenne as build quality in LR products is just unacceptable.

[Cobnapint]

NomduJour said:

RRS has a broader range of abilities than a Cayenne - strongly suspect 99% of Cayenne customers would be better off in a 5 Series estate given how they're used. But, SUVs are trendy...

Absolutely. The RRS rolls over a broader range of degrees when it goes round a corner. Not forgetting the fuel gauge that operates over a broader range in the same given time to a Cayenne.

There's a far broader range of reasons you'll be taking it back to the dealer to get things fixed too.

[NomduJour]

Cobnapint said:

Absolutely. The RRS rolls over a broader range of degrees when it goes round a corner. Not forgetting the fuel gauge that operates over a broader range in the same given time to a Cayenne.

There's a far broader range of reasons you'll be taking it back to the dealer to get things fixed too.

I can only speak about my first-hand lack of problems with LR build.

If you care about body roll and car-like handling, wouldn't it be just a little bit more sensible to buy a car in the first place?

How much better could the Cayenne be to drive if it didn't have to pretend to be an off-roder/SUV/whatever-it-is? Even a big hatchback like a Sport Turismo would make far more sense for most.

[Cobnapint]

NomduJour said:

Cobnapint said:

Absolutely. The RRS rolls over a broader range of degrees when it goes round a corner. Not forgetting the fuel gauge that operates over a broader range in the same given time to a Cayenne.

There's a far broader range of reasons you'll be taking it back to the dealer to get things fixed too.

I can only speak about my first-hand lack of problems with LR build.

If you care about body roll and car-like handling, wouldn't it be just a little bit more sensible to buy a car in the first place?

How much better could the Cayenne be to drive if it didn't have to pretend to be an off-roder/SUV/whatever-it-is? Even a big hatchback like a Sport Turismo would make far more sense for most.

The Cayenne already drives brilliantly. It handles great, you get to sit high up and the ride is good.

How much better to drive, on the road where it is supposed to be, would the RRS be if Landrover stopped pretending that it needs to excel off road?

[Helicopter123]

NomduJour said:

Discovery? They're very different cars, hardly alternatives.

RRS has a broader range of abilities than a Cayenne - strongly suspect 99% of Cayenne customers would be better off in a 5 Series estate given how they're used. But, SUVs are trendy...

Edited by NomduJour on Friday 2nd March 12:35

Just too many horror stories re the RRS to consider one.

Until they can make a reliable product I can't consider one.

Disagree re the 5 series estate too - higher driving position great for longer journeys and the kids being higher up too.

[NomduJour]

Cobnapint said:

How much better to drive, on the road where it is supposed to be, would the RRS be if Landrover stopped pretending that it needs to excel off road?

Irrelevant in a car like that, some people do actually want a dual-purpose vehicle. Ride/handling compromise is extremely well judged, Cayenne ride isn’t great even on air.

[NomduJour]

... but, if you want a jacked-up smallish estate car with some limited off-road ability, a Cayenne definitely drives more sharply than most of the alternatives.

[kevinmark]

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[kevinmark]

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[Cobnapint]

NomduJour said:

... but, if you want a jacked-up smallish estate car with some limited off-road ability, a Cayenne definitely drives more sharply than most of the alternatives.

I know, I've got one. Let's not say limited off road ability, let's call it fantastic 'on road' ability.

And the ride is fine on air, even with 21s.

[catfood12]

Cobnapint said:

NomduJour said:

... but, if you want a jacked-up smallish estate car with some limited off-road ability, a Cayenne definitely drives more sharply than most of the alternatives.

I know, I've got one. Let's not say limited off road ability, let's call it fantastic 'on road' ability.

And the ride is fine on air, even with 21s.

Just as Cobnapint says it is. Ride is far better than the RRS, similar to a Tourag (no real surprise), but colleague's Tourag is on steel and a V6...uggh... Not many Tourags seem to get air and PASM equivalent.

It is not on par with a Full Fat LWB Range Rover, but that is £120K+ in broadly equivalent spec (but you can't get ceramics even on a FFRR), and the L405 is not as quick or nimble as the Cayenne V8 diesel.

[Granfondo]

I think there is a few posters that are trying to convince themselves that the Porsche is better than the RRS!

[Cobnapint]

We're not trying. We're already convinced.

[Granfondo]

Cobnapint said:

We're not trying. We're already convinced.

Clutching at straws more like!
Even Porsche don't want to sell them!

[NomduJour]

catfood12 said:

Ride is far better than the RRS

There's being partisan, and there's being partisan...

[DJMC]

I'm in a 17 plate Cayenne S Platinum diesel courtesy car for 4 days. Done 300 miles. Poor in snow due to wide tyres. Nav is almost inaudible at full volume. Seems to have no up to date tech. Is this model being run out soon? Average mpg over 6k miles is 24 I noticed.
Feels very solid and gives confidence. Far better than F Pace I tried (barge). RR so flawed by quality issues I'd never buy one.

[Cheib]

NomduJour said:

catfood12 said:

Ride is far better than the RRS

There's being partisan, and there's being partisan...

Depends how you define ride... RRS is definitely better at wafting and low speed bump absorption but Cayenne’s ride is perfectly acceptable. Cayenne’s ride comfort is 80% of a RRS I would say but the Cayenne is just a much nicer drive overall. And personally I don’t want too much waft when pushing on driving on country lanes....you want a car with good body control that doesn’t handle like a boat. I drive our Cayenne to the Alps twice a year when the roads start getting interesting it’s genuinely fun to drive it....a RRS wouldn’t see which way a Cayenne went.

[NomduJour]

Cheib said:

a RRS wouldn’t see which way a Cayenne went

... and a Cayenne wouldn't see which way an RS6 went.