MK1 Rover 200

MK1 Rover 200

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Liquid Knight

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Thursday 23rd December 2010
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CDP said:
Liquid Knight said:
Had a "Rover" moment this morning the car refused to start. Turning over just fine and the smell of petrol meant it wasn't fuel delivery. Spare plug to find no spark at all. Hmmmmm, pulled the plugs; they were all fine. Checked the HT leads; again all good. 12.3V across the terminals of the coil pack; so dizzy cap off a bit of carbon in there so a quick clean and replace. Still no spark. 5:50AM on a Sunday morning so I can't ask anyone (and expect to talk to them ever again). So re-check everything. This time when I get to the coil pack it still had 12.3V going across it; until I turned the starter motor. Then it dropped to 0.0V! What the censored?

Here's the cause of my being an hour late for work.....



"Sparkrite"? No spark at all while the bloody thing was connected. Grrrrr!

It was the first time I've had a car fail to start in years and it was good to get back to basics and trouble shooting, but it couldn't have happened on any of my days off could it? rolleyes
So when it starts first time at -12 it's a Honda and when it fails to start it's a Rover?

tongue out
It was Sparkrites box of tricks at fault not the badge or the engine builders. wink

CDP

6,013 posts

210 months

Thursday 23rd December 2010
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Liquid Knight said:
CDP said:
Liquid Knight said:
Had a "Rover" moment this morning the car refused to start. Turning over just fine and the smell of petrol meant it wasn't fuel delivery. Spare plug to find no spark at all. Hmmmmm, pulled the plugs; they were all fine. Checked the HT leads; again all good. 12.3V across the terminals of the coil pack; so dizzy cap off a bit of carbon in there so a quick clean and replace. Still no spark. 5:50AM on a Sunday morning so I can't ask anyone (and expect to talk to them ever again). So re-check everything. This time when I get to the coil pack it still had 12.3V going across it; until I turned the starter motor. Then it dropped to 0.0V! What the censored?

Here's the cause of my being an hour late for work.....



"Sparkrite"? No spark at all while the bloody thing was connected. Grrrrr!

It was the first time I've had a car fail to start in years and it was good to get back to basics and trouble shooting, but it couldn't have happened on any of my days off could it? rolleyes
So when it starts first time at -12 it's a Honda and when it fails to start it's a Rover?

tongue out
It was Sparkrites box of tricks at fault not the badge or the engine builders. wink
True, but not how you described it smile

MGJohn

10,203 posts

139 months

Thursday 23rd December 2010
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CDP said:
So when it starts first time at -12 it's a Honda and when it fails to start it's a Rover?

tongue out
Nice one CDP .... smile

Rover Owner selling his car said:
...The very powerful and reliable Honda turbo engine has never missed a beat...
Me interested in buying said Rover said:
If your Rover turbo has a Honda engine then I'm no longer interested in the car
Rover Owner selling his car said:
Wha ...?
Of course it had a Rover engine and the deal was done...

Have done that on more than one occasion... smile

But, John, it must be a Honda engine it's so powerful and reliable .. stands to reason.

Yeah ... right ...


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CDP

6,013 posts

210 months

Thursday 23rd December 2010
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Oh great.

I've just started another holy war.


MGJohn

10,203 posts

139 months

Thursday 23rd December 2010
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CDP said:
Oh great.

I've just started another holy war.
Serves you right ... smile

Tis the season ... smile

Liquid Knight

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15,627 posts

139 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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I like the 216 advertised on eBay with a "Tomcat" engine. I asked "is it a Tomcat or a 216?" and didn't get a reply.

Forgive the differensiation earlier the car does have the Honda derived engine and not the S series. I've owned three of those and vowed "never again". It's a personal preference based of previous experiences. Having said that none of the 216's tried to kill me before. scratchchin

Liquid Knight

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Wednesday 29th December 2010
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Hand brake's fixed by the way.


Liquid Knight

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Friday 7th January 2011
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Pass with more advisories than a Slipknot album. The windscreen can wait I need to find a pair of inner and outer sills first.


Liquid Knight

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Friday 14th January 2011
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"We serve you" Petrol stations suck arse! censored


Liquid Knight

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Tuesday 18th January 2011
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Someone has taken the keys to my car and Rover do not sell replacement barrels or door locks. Grrrrrrr!

MGJohn

10,203 posts

139 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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Bad luck ..

Whenever I get a used car, even if it comes with two keys, for the sake of a few quid I get a spare. The cost is not much compared to the huge inconvenience having NO keys when they go missing. Yes even the chipped variety used in my 620ti which are about 30 quid a throw....

Not only that, when I buy a used car and it comes with only one fob, I get that duplicated sharpish. I have never lost or had car keys stolen but, several friends and relatives have and the resulting aggravation they have had is something I hope I never have to face. For a relatively small 'safety' outlay, money well spent.
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Liquid Knight

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Tuesday 18th January 2011
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Uncle of the year award goes to......

....someone else. As I have just shown my nephews how to do this....



...gone in sixty seconds eh? wink

After the worlds most disappointing Merc' and my keys being taken I hotwired the car for some retail therapy....



..I'll be looking at Montego/Maestro Rover 200/400/600 locks and barrels to see if they'll fit. wink

Liquid Knight

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Wednesday 19th January 2011
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Maestro/Montego ones don't fit and it looks like a Discovery barrel could.

Won't find out for six days as I'm back at work. frown

Liquid Knight

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Wednesday 19th January 2011
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Someone has very kindly put my keys in the post box this morning. Grrrrrr! :twisted:

So not a malicious theft but a practical joke or someone bottled it after seeing my reaction to keys going missing. Whoever it is they still owe me for an ignition barrel.

Steve_W

1,323 posts

133 months

Thursday 20th January 2011
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Your steering column/ignition lock doesn't look like the lock itself is knackered - could you get one from a scrapper (drillout the bolts?) and change the barrel?

MGJohn

10,203 posts

139 months

Friday 21st January 2011
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LK ~ visited a local ( Glos ) Breaker yard this afternoon and noticed this C-Reg 216 Vp. The Ignition key was present and it worked. I removed the key and placed it into the driver's door pocket otherwise it may go astray or someone break it off just for fun.



Complete with Haynes manual ... smile :~



If you want further information, send pm.

MGJ.

Liquid Knight

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Saturday 22nd January 2011
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That VDP looks worth saving. Being a pre-facelift one they're aren't many left out of the 160-odd series one Rover 200s left in the UK. The barren looked salvagable until I tried to straighten it and it cracked.

Bought one of these for now.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...

hehe

Liquid Knight

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Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Swaped wheel cylindars today. smile

Remove the wheel and drum as normal.



Take the cap off the brake fluid reservoir and push the pistons away from the shoes with screw drivers.



Undo and remove the retaining bolts and brake line from the back of the cylindar and tap loose.



Once removed inspect the backing plate for damage and rust.



Put the new cylindar in place and push the pistons in the same was as before. This reduced the amount of air in the system to save bleeding later.



Reconnect the brake line and bolt the cylindar in place.



When you remover the screw driver spacers the pistons shoud withdraw slowly to mee the shoes.

Replace the drum and bleed the brakes as normal.

This is why they needed changing....



...the one that didn't leak was siezed. smile

Finally I was prety pleased with myself and bought some Jaffa Teacakes.



They're rubbish. frown

Adding this photo for my other forum.



Edited by Liquid Knight on Tuesday 1st November 12:01

CDP

6,013 posts

210 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Liquid Knight said:
That VDP looks worth saving. Being a pre-facelift one they're aren't many left out of the 160-odd series one Rover 200s left in the UK. The barren looked salvagable until I tried to straighten it and it cracked.

Bought one of these for now.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...

hehe
Looks like 44K miles. May well be a scrapage car..

MGJohn

10,203 posts

139 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Liquid Knight said:
Swaped wheel cylindars today. smile

Remove the wheel and drum as normal.
Good work LK. I get more pleasure breathing new life into an old car than taking delivery of a new one! Over the years, both private purchases and company cars, numbers around three dozen new cars I guess.

Good pictures .... keep 'em coming.

Liquid Knight said:


They're rubbish. frown
Shame ~ what a disappointment ~ they look double tasty ...smile
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