RE: 80mph limit will cost £1bn say campaigners
Discussion
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ThePlanner said:
You could be further away from the truth about me. I have put the posts up based on my profession as an engineer that works in the transport (mainly Highway). Having spent 3 years working with accident investigation teams and on accident reconstruction modelling. I am now working as a specialist advisor to reduce accident severity on rural roads where local authorities have designed sub standard roads.
What's your solution..? 50mph..?whipround said:
why not leave your comments on the no to 80 website. http://noto80.wordpress.com/2012/05/21/speaking-up...
Appeared to be a good suggestion but upon investigation this site is dead so leaving comments would be pointless...
Watched Julie Townsend from BRAKE on BBC's Daily Politics argue vehemently against raising the 70 limit. She offered no supporting data and even Jo Coburn (the programme's presenter) commented that Julie's evidence was anecdotal.
Found BRAKE's document "No to 80": http://noto80.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/noto80-1...
In this document, BRAKE explain some key "truths" (their terminology) such as (embolding is mine):
"...the government's proposal to increase the motorway speed limit to 80mph is inhumane and environmentally irresponsible."
"...an increase in traffic speeds of just 3mph - a typical change for a 10mph rise in the limit - would be expected to increase deaths by more than 20%..."
"At 80mph, a petrol car emits 14% more CO2 per kilometre than at 70mph, while diesel cars emit 25% more."
This fanatical sect called BRAKE feining to be a charity, need challenging and shown for what they really are...
ThePlanner said:
mybrainhurts said:
What's your solution..? 50mph..?
No 80 or even 90 but restricted to 60 in bad weather. It has been suggested before that there only needs to be one motoring offence - dangerous driving, if it could reasonably be claimed to be that you should be banned, if not, it is ok. In more common language it could be classed as driving like a prat. Don't see such common sense becoming law, however!
whipround said:
why not leave your comments on the no to 80 website. http://noto80.wordpress.com/2012/05/21/speaking-up...
Oh dear lord..... Could someone with some website nouse make a no to 50 website in the same style, to fight the reduced limits that are springing up all over the country too please!whipround said:
why not leave your comments on the no to 80 website. http://noto80.wordpress.com/2012/05/21/speaking-up...
I said:
I was driving before the introduction of the national speed limit and used to travel the length of the M1 between 100 and 120mph, with no drama whatsoever.
The national speed limit brought with it bunching of traffic, which led to more collisions.
An unnaturally low speed limit, as the 70 limit is, has a soporific effect, creating fatigue. The Transport Research Laboratory claims that 20% of injury accidents involve fatigue.
So, what the protesters are proposing is a more dangerous environment on our roads.
You really ought to do something useful with your lives instead of meddling in things you do not understand.
Awaiting moderation.The national speed limit brought with it bunching of traffic, which led to more collisions.
An unnaturally low speed limit, as the 70 limit is, has a soporific effect, creating fatigue. The Transport Research Laboratory claims that 20% of injury accidents involve fatigue.
So, what the protesters are proposing is a more dangerous environment on our roads.
You really ought to do something useful with your lives instead of meddling in things you do not understand.
I'll not hold my breath.
bigdog3 said:
The national speed limit brought with it bunching of traffic, which led to more collisions.
An unnaturally low speed limit, as the 70 limit is, has a soporific effect, creating fatigue..
This is what I was referring to. Cruising at 200 km/h is fine.An unnaturally low speed limit, as the 70 limit is, has a soporific effect, creating fatigue..
Edited by Vipers on Saturday 26th May 22:24
Edited by Vipers on Saturday 26th May 22:26
Edited by Vipers on Saturday 26th May 22:26
Vipers said:
bigdog3 said:
The national speed limit brought with it bunching of traffic, which led to more collisions.
An unnaturally low speed limit, as the 70 limit is, has a soporific effect, creating fatigue..
This is what I was referring to. Cruising at 200 km/h is fine.An unnaturally low speed limit, as the 70 limit is, has a soporific effect, creating fatigue..
Both are valid. Bunching suddenly became a problem when the 70 Limit was introduced as a temporary measure back in December 1965. Today's over-crowded and inadequate motorway network is often bunched regardless.
Driving unnaturally slowly with insufficient mental stimulation leads to boredom, fatigue and accidents...
Yesterday I said:
whipround said:
why not leave your comments on the no to 80 website. http://noto80.wordpress.com/2012/05/21/speaking-up...
I said:
I was driving before the introduction of the national speed limit and used to travel the length of the M1 between 100 and 120mph, with no drama whatsoever.
The national speed limit brought with it bunching of traffic, which led to more collisions.
An unnaturally low speed limit, as the 70 limit is, has a soporific effect, creating fatigue. The Transport Research Laboratory claims that 20% of injury accidents involve fatigue.
So, what the protesters are proposing is a more dangerous environment on our roads.
You really ought to do something useful with your lives instead of meddling in things you do not understand.
Awaiting moderation.The national speed limit brought with it bunching of traffic, which led to more collisions.
An unnaturally low speed limit, as the 70 limit is, has a soporific effect, creating fatigue. The Transport Research Laboratory claims that 20% of injury accidents involve fatigue.
So, what the protesters are proposing is a more dangerous environment on our roads.
You really ought to do something useful with your lives instead of meddling in things you do not understand.
I'll not hold my breath.
bigdog3 said:
Vipers said:
bigdog3 said:
The national speed limit brought with it bunching of traffic, which led to more collisions.
An unnaturally low speed limit, as the 70 limit is, has a soporific effect, creating fatigue..
This is what I was referring to. Cruising at 200 km/h is fine.An unnaturally low speed limit, as the 70 limit is, has a soporific effect, creating fatigue..
Both are valid. Bunching suddenly became a problem when the 70 Limit was introduced as a temporary measure back in December 1965. Today's over-crowded and inadequate motorway network is often bunched regardless.
Driving unnaturally slowly with insufficient mental stimulation leads to boredom, fatigue and accidents...
Apologies for the misquote by the way
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