RE: MoTs scrapped for pre-1960 cars

[Nick Grant]

marshalla said:

ETA : if you can find a way of getting a UK registered "historic" vehicle into one of the German zones, without risking a fine or even a talking to from the local enforcement officers, I'll find a prize for you.

I hope it's a nice prize

[austin]

timewatch said:

austin said:

timewatch said:

Good news if you have an old banger and want to take the number plate off, just insure it for a day tax and reclaim, no damn MOT to worry about.

Or have I got this wrong?

TW>>>

Wrong, and I am repeating myself here. Current legislation states that you cannot transfer the registration away from an MOT exempt vehicle.

CURRENT LEGISLATION you say?

Then it may change then.

TW>>>

It might do, but it hasn't for old tractors and trucks so not sure why it would for anything else.

They MIGHT also lower the tax on petrol, make tax free for cars with over 300bhp etc etc. Who knows what might happen...

[spyker138]

1. The MOT does not assure safety; when I was a student (and irresponsible I suppose) I could generally get the car through the MOT once a year but it wasn't long before my car had some sort of spectacular failure - brake master cylinder, breaking CV joint etc which seemed entertaining at the time and certainly I never thought I was about to kill anyone other than myself... Even at MOT time I could argue out of stuff due to the age of the car - example my mini had disintegrating inner sills - but because it was pre seat-belt it had no mountings, and at that time, that meant it passed fine.

2. I now have cars in the US and in the UK. Here in the US the inspection is every two years once a car is four years old and all they do is connect the computer, check the emissions system is okay; and err... that's it. No inspection of tyres, brakes, nothing. I was suprised that in this litigious society there is nothing; but then they don't like government interference here.

3. Here's the relevant bit - for my older Jag there is no inspection needed at all, so long as I apply for it to be 'historic' and say the car is "primarily" for enthusiasts rallies and 'education'; which I suppose it is. It gets special plates for that and no registration/road tax fees either.. I just drive it and look after it.

Seems to me the MOT is becoming over

[urquattro]

Nick Grant said:

urquattro said:

To check the perspective and comments re nanny state etc, the first innocent killed by an idiot in a pre 1960 MoT exempt heap of rubbish brings

Very Daily Mail

urquattro said:

down the wrath of BRAKE, government, E.U. and insurance companies

With the excption of BRAKE who really are not worth a jot, the others have all been involved in this and view it as low risk and worth implementing. It has come from the E.U.

urquattro said:

It is necessary for the healthy use of old cars not to be in the weak position of defendent but comforted by compliance. Abuse of this could lead to all sorts of present exemptions such as emissions levels being thrown at old vehicles - with no hope of compliance to new raised levels, this is the end then as we currently enjoy, see Goodwood Breadfast Meetings to assess the loss of the hobby.

Nothing but scaremongering without basis of fact. Where are these hidden emmisions rules waiting in the wings?

urquattro said:

Points on a driving licence does not redress the issue or stop any irresponsible driver from being back on the road, his chances of being caught/stopped are minimal.

So if people without a licence will still drive unsafe cars how will this MOT legislation affect anything either way?

I live on planet reality - you seem to deny cold logic and my comprehensive review of keeping old cars on the road, we are miles apart but your opinion is respected - my 36 years ownership ofmany old classic cars has focussed on enjoyment and not have or create problems for me or others.

[gaz9185]

No tyhey are not, they are "cash machines"

Chas-Chiro said:

ANPR cameras are not for Road Tax / VFL monitoring. They are for monitoring you and your driving / traveling habits.

[sisu]

They should also eliminate any road test or licencing. China leads the way in this open policy where the state has washed its hands of this patriacal authoritarian policy towards cars and the freedom of the open road.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPxinqO3f8o

[smartphone hater]

sisu said:

They should also eliminate any road test or licencing. China leads the way in this open policy where the state has washed its hands of this patriacal authoritarian policy towards cars and the freedom of the open road.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPxinqO3f8o

Couldn't help but notice how wonderfully wide that inner city road was with not a pothole in sight.