RE: MoTs scrapped for pre-1960 cars
Discussion
timewatch said:
austin said:
timewatch said:
Good news if you have an old banger and want to take the number plate off, just insure it for a day tax and reclaim, no damn MOT to worry about.
Or have I got this wrong?
TW>>>
Wrong, and I am repeating myself here. Current legislation states that you cannot transfer the registration away from an MOT exempt vehicle.Or have I got this wrong?
TW>>>
Then it may change then.
TW>>>
They MIGHT also lower the tax on petrol, make tax free for cars with over 300bhp etc etc. Who knows what might happen...
1. The MOT does not assure safety; when I was a student (and irresponsible I suppose) I could generally get the car through the MOT once a year but it wasn't long before my car had some sort of spectacular failure - brake master cylinder, breaking CV joint etc which seemed entertaining at the time and certainly I never thought I was about to kill anyone other than myself... Even at MOT time I could argue out of stuff due to the age of the car - example my mini had disintegrating inner sills - but because it was pre seat-belt it had no mountings, and at that time, that meant it passed fine.
2. I now have cars in the US and in the UK. Here in the US the inspection is every two years once a car is four years old and all they do is connect the computer, check the emissions system is okay; and err... that's it. No inspection of tyres, brakes, nothing. I was suprised that in this litigious society there is nothing; but then they don't like government interference here.
3. Here's the relevant bit - for my older Jag there is no inspection needed at all, so long as I apply for it to be 'historic' and say the car is "primarily" for enthusiasts rallies and 'education'; which I suppose it is. It gets special plates for that and no registration/road tax fees either.. I just drive it and look after it.
Seems to me the MOT is becoming over
2. I now have cars in the US and in the UK. Here in the US the inspection is every two years once a car is four years old and all they do is connect the computer, check the emissions system is okay; and err... that's it. No inspection of tyres, brakes, nothing. I was suprised that in this litigious society there is nothing; but then they don't like government interference here.
3. Here's the relevant bit - for my older Jag there is no inspection needed at all, so long as I apply for it to be 'historic' and say the car is "primarily" for enthusiasts rallies and 'education'; which I suppose it is. It gets special plates for that and no registration/road tax fees either.. I just drive it and look after it.
Seems to me the MOT is becoming over
Nick Grant said:
urquattro said:
To check the perspective and comments re nanny state etc, the first innocent killed by an idiot in a pre 1960 MoT exempt heap of rubbish brings
Very Daily Mail urquattro said:
down the wrath of BRAKE, government, E.U. and insurance companies
With the excption of BRAKE who really are not worth a jot, the others have all been involved in this and view it as low risk and worth implementing. It has come from the E.U. urquattro said:
It is necessary for the healthy use of old cars not to be in the weak position of defendent but comforted by compliance. Abuse of this could lead to all sorts of present exemptions such as emissions levels being thrown at old vehicles - with no hope of compliance to new raised levels, this is the end then as we currently enjoy, see Goodwood Breadfast Meetings to assess the loss of the hobby.
Nothing but scaremongering without basis of fact. Where are these hidden emmisions rules waiting in the wings? urquattro said:
Points on a driving licence does not redress the issue or stop any irresponsible driver from being back on the road, his chances of being caught/stopped are minimal.
So if people without a licence will still drive unsafe cars how will this MOT legislation affect anything either way? They should also eliminate any road test or licencing. China leads the way in this open policy where the state has washed its hands of this patriacal authoritarian policy towards cars and the freedom of the open road.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPxinqO3f8o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPxinqO3f8o
sisu said:
They should also eliminate any road test or licencing. China leads the way in this open policy where the state has washed its hands of this patriacal authoritarian policy towards cars and the freedom of the open road.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPxinqO3f8o
Couldn't help but notice how wonderfully wide that inner city road was with not a pothole in sight. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPxinqO3f8o
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