Carbon neutral fuel is not far off
Discussion
Flumpo said:
A few years ago I saw an interesting experiment that was being done in the USA. I think it was in Nevada. Solar powered trains (can’t think of a better word) went up a steep incline powered by the sun up to the top. When you wanted energy they tipped over the crest to a vertical drop and through a dynamo they created energy.
Obviously that’s probably not feasible large scale. But maybe wind or solar could power something which could then have its energy converted into something else. Could you use wind to pump water into a lake then open a dam when you need the power.
Pumped storage is a thing. Obviously that’s probably not feasible large scale. But maybe wind or solar could power something which could then have its energy converted into something else. Could you use wind to pump water into a lake then open a dam when you need the power.
The larger and more diverse your network, the more constant the demand - especially if you get to the point of crossing time zones.
xjay1337 said:
Until there is a method of being able to drive for approx 300-400 miles, being able to fully refuel in 10 minutes tops, Electric cars will always be a minority, or used as secondary cars in and around town (for which they are fantastic).
Imagine the queues at the "pumps" when you need to recharge your batteries..... because of course, there is never going to be the infrastructure to allow every single parking spot at your work to charge your car.
this is only a problem for the 1% of motorists who do over 300 miles a day, for the vast majority of drivers current EVs will work every dayImagine the queues at the "pumps" when you need to recharge your batteries..... because of course, there is never going to be the infrastructure to allow every single parking spot at your work to charge your car.
charging is an issue for the moment for a lot of people who have on street parking, its early days and there are several solutions for this in the works
Dave Hedgehog said:
this is only a problem for the 1% of motorists who do over 300 miles a day, for the vast majority of drivers current EVs will work every day
charging is an issue for the moment for a lot of people who have on street parking, its early days and there are several solutions for this in the works
Except when they don’t and that’s the killer. What does the M5 services look like on the Thursday before Bank Holiday as everyone piles down to the West Country from London and then run out of power somewhere near Exeter? You either need to provision terawatts of charge capacity, or people queue for days. charging is an issue for the moment for a lot of people who have on street parking, its early days and there are several solutions for this in the works
rxe said:
Except when they don’t and that’s the killer. What does the M5 services look like on the Thursday before Bank Holiday as everyone piles down to the West Country from London and then run out of power somewhere near Exeter? You either need to provision terawatts of charge capacity, or people queue for days.
Not just that it's the billions needing investing into the distribution network if lots of people start charging at home the network can't handle a possible 3-4 fold increase in peak demands 10 people running of one transformer all trying to charge there car at same time would overload many of them ontop on normal demand
Chris32345 said:
Not just that it's the billions needing investing into the distribution network if lots of people start charging at home the network can't handle a possible 3-4 fold increase in peak demands
10 people running of one transformer all trying to charge there car at same time would overload many of them ontop on normal demand
Have you told the National Grid? You definitely should, because they aren't worried at all.10 people running of one transformer all trying to charge there car at same time would overload many of them ontop on normal demand
otolith said:
Chris32345 said:
Not just that it's the billions needing investing into the distribution network if lots of people start charging at home the network can't handle a possible 3-4 fold increase in peak demands
10 people running of one transformer all trying to charge there car at same time would overload many of them ontop on normal demand
Have you told the National Grid? You definitely should, because they aren't worried at all.10 people running of one transformer all trying to charge there car at same time would overload many of them ontop on normal demand
Edited by Flumpo on Wednesday 8th January 12:21
Flumpo said:
The national grid are working with the government, local authorities and the big petrol stations and see fast chargers not home charging as a way forward.
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They've said no such thing..
They acknowledge that many people won't have home chargers because of on street parking, but they certainly see home chargers being normal for those with driveways.
And also, NG don't seem to have issue with the spread of streetlight chargers and kerbside chargers either.
Focused said:
This could be very interesting for petrol-heads...
https://forecourttrader.co.uk/news/fullstory.php/a...
Will the new fuel provide a similar energy per volume content as petrol and diesel?https://forecourttrader.co.uk/news/fullstory.php/a...
Even if it is a little lower, using turbos can bring engine power up to fun levels again.
Surely the Greta brigade can't argue against this development can they?
Assuming new vehicles are also focussed on recyclable materials.
The new fuel needs to arrive quickly, because Boris in his infinite wisdom has only given the ICE car 15 more years.
But then again, the world only has 12 years left anyways doesn't it?
GroundZero said:
The new fuel needs to arrive quickly, because Boris in his infinite wisdom has only given the ICE car 15 more years.
But then again, the world only has 12 years left anyways doesn't it?
The world will be fine, the amount that is habitable or usable for food production for humans is going to be the problem But then again, the world only has 12 years left anyways doesn't it?
Pumped Storage has been used to generate electricity for a long time. There a station in North Wales...Snowdonia, I believe, but not sure if it still operates. Worth searching, (online), for. I think it pumped water up to storage over night and released it to generate power during the day...but may have been the ither way 'round. Only two possibilities. 🙄
Skodaku said:
Pumped Storage has been used to generate electricity for a long time. There a station in North Wales...Snowdonia, I believe, but not sure if it still operates. Worth searching, (online), for. I think it pumped water up to storage over night and released it to generate power during the day...but may have been the ither way 'round. Only two possibilities. ??
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