Economic impacts of the bans on the sale of fossil fuels

[Snaaakeey]

Has this been reported on at Pistonheads? I haven't seen anything and had a quick forum search.

https://wiki.mag-uk.org/images/f/fc/Cebr_Analysis_...

Thoughts?

( cut my own title off bugger! Any idea how to edit the title?)

Edited by Snaaakeey on Thursday 20th October 14:56

Edited by Snaaakeey on Thursday 20th October 14:58

[Snaaakeey]

Too much of a hot topic I guess : )

[Terminator X]

The Govt will NGAF, net zero at whatever the cost.

TX.

[RazerSauber]

The more money it costs us peasants, the more they collect in tax.

[JMBMWM5]

Snaaakeey said:

Has this been reported on at Pistonheads? I haven't seen anything and had a quick forum search.

https://wiki.mag-uk.org/images/f/fc/Cebr_Analysis_...

Thoughts?

( cut my own title off bugger! Any idea how to edit the title?)

Edited by Snaaakeey on Thursday 20th October 14:56

Edited by Snaaakeey on Thursday 20th October 14:58

Fossil fuels are here for another 20/40 years mate, this electric car crap wont last, hydrogen will eventually replace Petrol , electric will be fazed out in 10 years max and buyers of electric cars will be snookered. Secondhand electric cars now are being avoided due to costs, many main dealerships have advised NOT to take them in PX.

Edited by JMBMWM5 on Tuesday 15th November 15:04

[Fastlane]

JMBMWM5 said:

Focal fuels are here for another 20/40 years mate, this electric car crap wont last, hydrogen will eventually replace Petrol , electric will be fazed out in 10 years max and buyers of electric cars will be snookered. Secondhand electric cars now are being avoided due to costs, many main dealerships have advised NOT to take them in PX.

Apart from focal [sic] fuels being around for a long time yet, the rest of this is absolute rubbish. There is literally zero chance hydrogen is the future for ground transport based on any logical, economic or scientific reason now or anytime soon.

As you are retired, surely you have some spare time to do some proper research?

[MK4-RS-SPORT300-2022]

As others have said fossil fuels will be here in 40 years easily! Do you really think the oil producing trillionaires will just idly standby & let electric take all their business away...they could buy every single EV manufacturer with spare pocket change if they so wish & cancel orders!

[Puzzles]

MK4-RS-SPORT300-2022 said:

As others have said fossil fuels will be here in 40 years easily! Do you really think the oil producing trillionaires will just idly standby & let electric take all their business away...they could buy every single EV manufacturer with spare pocket change if they so wish & cancel orders!

Apart from Teslas market cap isn’t far off double Exxon’s.

[PolarBearsLuv2DrinkOil]

MK4-RS-SPORT300-2022 said:

As others have said fossil fuels will be here in 40 years easily! Do you really think the oil producing trillionaires will just idly standby & let electric take all their business away...they could buy every single EV manufacturer with spare pocket change if they so wish & cancel orders!

They will be used as long as they are around. Most calculations have been in the 50 to 70 years range until the oil runs out. For those who think that society will survive for thousands of years, natural oil conservation should be a priority regardless of any climate impact.

[JMBMWM5]

Fastlane said:

Apart from focal [sic] fuels being around for a long time yet, the rest of this is absolute rubbish. There is literally zero chance hydrogen is the future for ground transport based on any logical, economic or scientific reason now or anytime soon.

As you are retired, surely you have some spare time to do some proper research?

Ask your high end Car dealer what he thinks about the electric box, (fossil) was spoken to text I did not spell check it.
Also Japan are working on a more economic way to produce Hydrogen fuel and have succeeded, watch this space, If you really think Electric is the way to go your deluded.

[nismo48]

RazerSauber said:

The more money it costs us peasants, the more they collect in tax.

+1 Agree

[Oliver Hardy]

nismo48 said:

RazerSauber said:

The more money it costs us peasants, the more they collect in tax.

+1 Agree

But they need to raise more taxes to push the green development further which seems to cost more not less. UK is leader in wind generation and cutting emissions as our politicians are for ever telling us, yet look at the price of electricity. Expansion of public transport will need great subsidies, HS2 = £200 billion or so as an example plus cost of running it once it is built

[rizalchoirur]

Edited by rizalchoirur on Sunday 15th January 18:19

[anonymous-user]

Until we have fusion power, hydrogen will never be practical for large scale transportation, the conversion processes are just too inefficient.

Hydrogen probably has a role in shipping and aviation but not much else at the moment.

Just consider the waste heat in terms of a Sankey diagram if you want to understand why.

[Anawilliam850]

RazerSauber said:

The more money it costs us peasants, the more they collect in tax.

I'm agree with you

[duncs]

Our whole economy is built on consuming fossil fuels, can't change it overnight