RE: Lightning strike

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JagLover

42,397 posts

235 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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cyberface said:
The 'detail' of the battery technology sounds bogus to me.

Most new 'nano' anything tends to be vapourware, and nano titanate? What the hell is that - instead of graphite? No heavy metals? Well it's going to need something more electronegative as the other pole of the battery, assuming it's a battery. And titanium isn't exactly pollution-free to produce either.
Maybe its made from Unobtanium?

RefinedRogue

12 posts

202 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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I hope this car does get made, if it can do what it says then sign me up for one. It just needs to come over to the US like the Nobel did. I will even set up the first dealership/distribution network for them...

Li Moo Bai

847 posts

205 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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Hmm I guess we are looking at a glimpse of what the future holds..

I like the concept very much, especially the recharging on run-down; although this is nothin' new of course.

I forsee a new market opening up for mp3s of your favourite petol engines :rubshands: - just so you can pretend your car doesn't sound like a giant hairdryer up front wink

peter450

1,650 posts

233 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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If the long range one only does 250 miles how long will the 700hp last?



Edited by peter450 on Monday 11th June 18:33

Tony*T3

20,911 posts

247 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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Did I just wake up from a 15 year coma to discover that technology has finally cured all the worlds probelms.....????

Nah, dont think so. 10 minute recharge? Next thing you'll be telling me theres an anti gravity device so that it can fly too.....

Hairy Cornflake

636 posts

251 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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Cushtie!!!!!!!!

dandarez

13,282 posts

283 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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Lordbenny said:
It's the Future!!! drivingwoohoo
What?

Left hand drive and no legs roflroflrofl

450chim

128 posts

232 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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Think if I WAS SPENDING 150K I'd want some thing that sounded like a car not a MILK FLOAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

flattotheboards

6,681 posts

206 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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step in right direction in terms of the electic car.

andytk

1,553 posts

266 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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cyberface said:
The 'detail' of the battery technology sounds bogus to me.

Most new 'nano' anything tends to be vapourware, and nano titanate? What the hell is that - instead of graphite? No heavy metals? Well it's going to need something more electronegative as the other pole of the battery, assuming it's a battery. And titanium isn't exactly pollution-free to produce either.
You've more or less got it in one.

This "Altair Nano" lot are infamous for partnering with a tiny startup company making all electric pickup trucks in California, not letting anyone buy quantities of their batteries for testing and not providing any independent test data on the performance of their batteries.

Not only that, but the cost of validation engineering on life cycle and accelerated ageing are huge.

I'm not convinced that this lot aren't vapourware.

After all, if they're so good why isn't anyone else lining up to use them. Tesla with the electric Elise are using standard lithium ion cells which have a calander life of just 5 years. You don't think they'd use something better if they could prove it would work??

Andy

memfis

83 posts

202 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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450chim said:
Think if I WAS SPENDING 150K I'd want some thing that sounded like a car not a MILK FLOAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Me too!

It looks very McTaggart-ish

annodomini2

6,861 posts

251 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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andytk said:
cyberface said:
The 'detail' of the battery technology sounds bogus to me.

Most new 'nano' anything tends to be vapourware, and nano titanate? What the hell is that - instead of graphite? No heavy metals? Well it's going to need something more electronegative as the other pole of the battery, assuming it's a battery. And titanium isn't exactly pollution-free to produce either.
You've more or less got it in one.

This "Altair Nano" lot are infamous for partnering with a tiny startup company making all electric pickup trucks in California, not letting anyone buy quantities of their batteries for testing and not providing any independent test data on the performance of their batteries.

Not only that, but the cost of validation engineering on life cycle and accelerated ageing are huge.

I'm not convinced that this lot aren't vapourware.

After all, if they're so good why isn't anyone else lining up to use them. Tesla with the electric Elise are using standard lithium ion cells which have a calander life of just 5 years. You don't think they'd use something better if they could prove it would work??

Andy
Could be related to this: http://www.technologyreview.com/Biztech/18086/ 

jpf

1,311 posts

276 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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Just put a V8 in there and start selling it for 45K

Wouldn't it be funny if they sold a bunch--Jaguar would look pretty foolish--it is an F-type in looks...

annodomini2

6,861 posts

251 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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annodomini2 said:
andytk said:
cyberface said:
The 'detail' of the battery technology sounds bogus to me.

Most new 'nano' anything tends to be vapourware, and nano titanate? What the hell is that - instead of graphite? No heavy metals? Well it's going to need something more electronegative as the other pole of the battery, assuming it's a battery. And titanium isn't exactly pollution-free to produce either.
You've more or less got it in one.

This "Altair Nano" lot are infamous for partnering with a tiny startup company making all electric pickup trucks in California, not letting anyone buy quantities of their batteries for testing and not providing any independent test data on the performance of their batteries.

Not only that, but the cost of validation engineering on life cycle and accelerated ageing are huge.

I'm not convinced that this lot aren't vapourware.

After all, if they're so good why isn't anyone else lining up to use them. Tesla with the electric Elise are using standard lithium ion cells which have a calander life of just 5 years. You don't think they'd use something better if they could prove it would work??

Andy
Could be related to this: http://www.technologyreview.com/Biztech/18086/ 
According to posts at the bottom of that link they talk about 'Barium Titanate Capacitor' and BASF could also be related to that. Definitely sounds like ultra-cap tech.

sodall2doo

35 posts

245 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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What really concerns me is how many peeps are going to be killed by these cars because you cannot hear them ? thank god for V'8s eh at least you can hear us and then take appropriate action LMFAO ! smile

hmmmm am i imagining this or does it look like an MX5 from the front but a TVR Cerbera (facelift) going backwards from the back ?

Edited by sodall2doo on Monday 11th June 22:06

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

252 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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The side view looks alright, but they desperately need to rework that kit-car front and rear. It looks like badly-made fibreglass.

mikdys

212 posts

235 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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[quote=annodomini2.............

According to posts at the bottom of that link they talk about 'Barium Titanate Capacitor'..........
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AKA "Flux Capacitor" wink

ERIKTHEVETKING

434 posts

215 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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Aaaaaaah sheer joy as I race down the road, heads turning at the awesome sound of my... Milk Float ...paperbag Time to leave the planet getmecoat


Goochie

5,663 posts

219 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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Does no one else remember the Frence electric sports car that was in the news a couple of years ago? I saw it at the Goodwood FOS and it was an interestign sight on the hill - it diddnt whine like a milk float, the only noise was from the tyres.

I seem to remember Tiff Needell.was pretty impressed with it too.

Bluebottle

3,498 posts

240 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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Unfortunately we are hanging onto our ultra poluting GT cars by the skin of our teeth, If our nanny state government capitulates any more to the lefty Greenies we'll all be on pushbikes.
Alternatively fuelled cars IS the way of the future whether we want it or not, and up until now I have seen no efforts by the car industry to make me want one of these so called eco friendly milk floats. This however does seem to have some promise (If you believe the hype and seemingly implausable claims).
Car looks pretty desirable in the styling department, they've even given us a reduntant gear stick, handbrake and rev counter so it doesn't feel like a milk float. I wonder if its got a redundant V8 under the bonnet so it doesn't look like a milk float? nuts