RE: Fuel Station Pumps Price To 10 Euros A Litre

RE: Fuel Station Pumps Price To 10 Euros A Litre

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wakster

265 posts

177 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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9rk said:
Beacause what everyone seems to forget, allthough times are tough and fuel prices are getting higher, we are actually running out of the crap. Because no one can see that, the only way the goverment can seem to get around this huge issue is by slowly raising fuel prices, to the point where the country does meet that awful peak where only the rich and those who need it can have fuel.
Oh, that's what it's all about is it? Thank god they have our best interests at heart...

9rk

18 posts

156 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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M666 EVO said:
Rediculous sentiment. Truly rediculous. Or are you trying to emply you are considerably richer than thou? Don't you think we get taxed enough with road duty, congestion charges and tolls? It takes away the joy of driving and some people who need to drive simply cannot afford it...
I’m not rich at all by any means; in fact I’m finding it difficult to fuel to go to work as it is. But you can’t put your heard in the sand, these fuel prices are all going up for a reason.

People like you and me spend millions of pounds researching ways around this and the only conclusion is a steady increase, if the world wasn’t so unstable then it would be close to ten euros everywhere by now anyway.




Edited by 9rk on Wednesday 27th April 15:43

NoNeed

15,137 posts

199 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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9rk said:
Im not rich at all by any means, in fact im finding it difficult to fuel to go to work as it is. But you cant put ur heard in the sand, these fuel prices are all going up for a reason.

Edited by 9rk on Wednesday 27th April 15:16
It's called supply and demand, take away the demand with silly prices and the supply would crumble as it wouldn't be cost effective enough to drill and refine for.

Silly post of the year award, it's either you or me!

qube_TA

8,402 posts

244 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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9rk said:
JonnyFive said:
Agreed.

Why should only the rich be able to afford to be on the road?
And that goes with anything mate, you will for all eternity have a un even balance between rich and poor. Sadly those who cannont afford, cannot have. Thats the brutal reality of it.
True but why create that artificially?

Lets price out the folk on more modest incomes of anything we don't want them to have!

Why not just do an auto credit check on them, if they're not sufficiently affluent then refuse to sell them anything nice.

It's been a long time since mobility and transport has been confined to the elite, why would anyone wish to return to that?

9rk

18 posts

156 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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wakster said:
Oh, that's what it's all about is it? Thank god they have our best interests at heart...
Again your looking in the short term, it sucks for you and me and millions of other people of this Era but the point is that they are doing this because they have to.

Look in the long term for example. If we burn all the fuel up now till the point we have nothing left or a alternative to move on too then what?

Besides I would probably assume 8 in 10 people drive when they could walk, how many times have you said to yourself, you know what "ill go for a drive" or "ill drive to my mates house" alot of it again is to do with the stupid society we live in. We are all lazy, and want everything cheap.


Lord Flathead

1,288 posts

178 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Ha we joke about those prices now. We were not happy when it was 50p a gallon in 1974 then rose to 70p a gallon the next year in '75 eek

In ten years time I fully expect us to be paying near 10 euros (I don't have a EU sign on my keyboard!) a litre as I would wager that only classic cars will be eligible.

Petrol Prices through the ages

9rk

18 posts

156 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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qube_TA said:
True but why create that artificially?

Lets price out the folk on more modest incomes of anything we don't want them to have!

Why not just do an auto credit check on them, if they're not sufficiently affluent then refuse to sell them anything nice.

It's been a long time since mobility and transport has been confined to the elite, why would anyone wish to return to that?
Very true mate, but the way things are going this is something that needs improvement. I wouldn’t want to return to a bike or walking everywhere and only result to getting work close by, that would suck. I love cars and it’s my life, in fact I work at a race circuit lol

But again this is a long term solution, no matter what way you cut it guys these costs are going to go up and up and up, and it’s only gradual due the point you have mentioned.

Society as we know would fall on its ass if it was to suddenly go up, but either way this is all inevitable.


9rk

18 posts

156 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Lord Flathead said:
Ha we joke about those prices now. We were not hapy when it was 50p a gallon in 1974 then rose to 70p a gallon the next year in '75 eek

In ten years time I fully expect us to be paying near 10 euros (I don't have a EU sign on my keyboard!) a litre as I would wager that only classic cars will be eligible.

Petrol Prices through the ages
50p that would be nice now huh wink

Edited by 9rk on Wednesday 27th April 15:32

Lord Flathead

1,288 posts

178 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Indeed.. who is this Hugh you speak of?

9rk

18 posts

156 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Lord Flathead said:
Indeed.. who is this Hugh you speak of?
ooops typo meant huh smile

Andrew[MG]

3,322 posts

197 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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wedgeinald said:
Andrew[MG] said:
What is this E10 ethanol super unleaded you speak of?
90% petrol 10% "bio" ethanol.

A step towards a "green" fuel aparently...
So is it better or worse than normal super? Can any cars use it?

stagman

37 posts

240 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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9rk said:
Because what everyone seems to forget, although times are tough and fuel prices are getting higher, we are actually running out of the crap. Because no one can see that, the only way the government can seem to get around this huge issue is by slowly rising fuel prices, to the point where the country does meet that dreaded peak where only the rich and those in power can have it.

If it was too pricey to afford then everyone would have to get into a new way and routine of transport i.e. people use bikes more, or public transport, yes this will effect their jobs, not alone business's worldwide but they will adapt and change over time. I mean what else can we do, we can’t just say cheap prices for everyone can we?

I don’t like paying through the nose for fuel either but there is no other option, and if I’m so wrong then why are they doing it?

Edited by 9rk on Wednesday 27th April 15:10
Errr, running out of it???? We have more known reserves now than we believed some 40 years ago due to far more advanced exploration techniques.
The world price is purely agreed to keep the middle east from turning off their supply. Unfortunately for them, sand doesn't command a very high price.

9rk

18 posts

156 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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stagman said:
Errr, running out of it???? We have more known reserves now than we believed some 40 years ago due to far more advanced exploration techniques.
The world price is purely agreed to keep the middle east from turning off their supply. Unfortunately for them, sand doesn't command a very high price.
Errr, doesnt matter mate. We havnt sprouted all this extra fuel in the last 40 years, all we have done is made reserves like you said, doesnt mean we have more than we did 40 years ago... lol. Thats like me saying I had 80 Carrots in the ground 2 weeks ago, and no reserves but now have 60 Reserves and only 5 in the ground.

Were still using it quicker than its Replenishing.

The price has alot to do with that as well yes but there are hunderds of other reasons to go with that, again what ever way you cut this, the correct solution isnt to lower fuel prices, its to raise it. End of.

Edited by 9rk on Wednesday 27th April 16:25

dandarez

13,246 posts

282 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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9rk said:
stagman said:
Errr, running out of it???? We have more known reserves now than we believed some 40 years ago due to far more advanced exploration techniques.
The world price is purely agreed to keep the middle east from turning off their supply. Unfortunately for them, sand doesn't command a very high price.
Errr, doesnt matter mate. We havnt sprouted all this extra fuel in the last 40 years, all we have done is made reserves like you said, doesnt mean we have more than we did 40 years ago... lol. Thats like me saying I had 80 Carrots in the ground 2 weeks ago, and no reserves but now have 60 Reserves and only 5 in the ground.

Were still using it quicker than its Replenishing.



The price has alot to do with that as well yes but there are hunderds of other reasons to go with that, again what ever way you cut this, the correct solution isnt to lower fuel prices its to raise it. End of.
Oh dear. More washing of the brain.
You get on your bike, if you want to. Nothing wrong with that, that's what 'they' want you to do.

It's not running out.
If it is, tell me exactly when this is likely to happen: your lifetime?, mine? (not a chance in hell!), your childrens'? (supposing you have any, or is it still safe to bring them into this dastardly world?).
It's just that there is a ME crisis and a panic. It's not running out, it's more difficult to get.
The government loves it, cos it's raking it in!

It's like we are all living longer... another washing of the brain. Tell the people something enough and they'll believe it.
Global warming (sorry, climate change). More washing... usually starting at kindergarten now.
The ozone layer (surely it should have disappeared completely by now and life on earth vanished?)
Acid Rain... whatever happened to that? Perhaps it disappeared with the 'shower' who thought it up?

Swine Flu, that was a bit of a pig tale!
Healthy eating agenda. Low fat this, low fat that. 30 years of it, yet we are more obese than ever (except those who don't listen to the nonsense).
My generation was brought up to go to work on an egg, dripping on toast, beef fat, sausages and bacon, fried bread for breakfast, etc etc, yet we were like beanpoles. Take a look at a 60s video of Led Zeppelin! What fat ba.....ds they were. The 'drainpipes' fashion would have a hard time making a comeback in the 'healthy eating' era now.

The End is Nigh. I remember those placards all over the place in the 60s.
Some of us were washed of the brain and thought it was true in the early 70s when the Yom Kippur war errupted and arrrrrghhhhhhhh petrol ration books were handed out (I've still got mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why? THEY WERE NEVER USED! That old story - it'll run out - fuel prices in 73 quadrupled overnight! Bet you weren't around then?

Just to add, if it is 'really' running out, there are going to be a hell of a lot of redundancies at the worlds car giants, eh?

Nah, the infernal combustion engine is here to stay for a while yet.

A LONG while!

9rk

18 posts

156 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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dandarez said:
Oh dear. More washing of the brain.
You get on your bike, if you want to. Nothing wrong with that, that's what 'they' want you to do.

It's not running out.
If it is, tell me exactly when this is likely to happen: your lifetime?, mine? (not a chance in hell!), your childrens'? (supposing you have any, or is it still safe to bring them into this dastardly world?).
It's just that there is a ME crisis and a panic. It's not running out, it's more difficult to get.
The government loves it, cos it's raking it in!

It's like we are all living longer... another washing of the brain. Tell the people something enough and they'll believe it.
Global warming (sorry, climate change). More washing... usually starting at kindergarten now.
The ozone layer (surely it should have disappeared completely by now and life on earth vanished?)
Acid Rain... whatever happened to that? Perhaps it disappeared with the 'shower' who thought it up?

Swine Flu, that was a bit of a pig tale!
Healthy eating agenda. Low fat this, low fat that. 30 years of it, yet we are more obese than ever (except those who don't listen to the nonsense).
My generation was brought up to go to work on an egg, dripping on toast, beef fat, sausages and bacon, fried bread for breakfast, etc etc, yet we were like beanpoles. Take a look at a 60s video of Led Zeppelin! What fat ba.....ds they were. The 'drainpipes' fashion would have a hard time making a comeback in the 'healthy eating' era now.

The End is Nigh. I remember those placards all over the place in the 60s.
Some of us were washed of the brain and thought it was true in the early 70s when the Yom Kippur war errupted and arrrrrghhhhhhhh petrol ration books were handed out (I've still got mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why? THEY WERE NEVER USED! That old story - it'll run out - fuel prices in 73 quadrupled overnight! Bet you weren't around then?

Just to add, if it is 'really' running out, there are going to be a hell of a lot of redundancies at the worlds car giants, eh?

Nah, the infernal combustion engine is here to stay for a while yet.

A LONG while!
Whats with you and washing? ffs lol

Everything runs out mate, I'm not saying it’s going to happen any time soon, never said that.

To a point yes the government are making a lot of money out of this but the way you word it makes it out to be one huge conspiracy! Considering its one of the largest exports of the world I'd like to think the powers at be, have a little more on their mind aside from making money. There are again countless reasons to why the prices are increasing day by day, and one of them however way you cut it, is volume of which we consume.

Your pretty much stepping on your own words with this point that its not going to happen for ages, just because its not "for a while" doesnt mean its not going to happen and the people in charge of all these prices seem to come to the conclusion to make everything run as smoothly as possible is to increase the price.

Your trying to contradict me but I am merely just agreeing with the fact prices are going up for the right reasons. I doubt a few people on a forum, can some how outsmart thousands of those who are employed and paid lots to make these decisions.


Edited by 9rk on Wednesday 27th April 17:09


Edited by 9rk on Wednesday 27th April 17:16

Mr MXT

7,691 posts

282 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Andrew[MG] said:
wedgeinald said:
Andrew[MG] said:
What is this E10 ethanol super unleaded you speak of?
90% petrol 10% "bio" ethanol.

A step towards a "green" fuel aparently...
So is it better or worse than normal super? Can any cars use it?
Most Unleaded in the UK is E5 (i.e. 5% content) but most Super is still E0.

Just if you're interested like!

mike-r

1,539 posts

190 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Dandarez, nice informed post. People ARE getting older though, if you want me to bring up some empirics from my degree I will gladly. And why do you dismiss Swine Flu? Can't really deny the existence of that, in fact it was worse last year than ever before, the media just aren't interested any more - old news doesn't sell.

I wrote a blog last year about this, http://www.netcars.com/blogs/mike-rawlings-blog/th... read there for some fuel price perspective.

JonnyFive

29,387 posts

188 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Mr MXT said:
Andrew[MG] said:
wedgeinald said:
Andrew[MG] said:
What is this E10 ethanol super unleaded you speak of?
90% petrol 10% "bio" ethanol.

A step towards a "green" fuel aparently...
So is it better or worse than normal super? Can any cars use it?
Most Unleaded in the UK is E5 (i.e. 5% content) but most Super is still E0.

Just if you're interested like!
So E0 (None) is good? and E10 (10%) bad? I thought drag cars ran on ethanol?

Mr MXT

7,691 posts

282 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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JonnyFive said:
Mr MXT said:
Andrew[MG] said:
wedgeinald said:
Andrew[MG] said:
What is this E10 ethanol super unleaded you speak of?
90% petrol 10% "bio" ethanol.

A step towards a "green" fuel aparently...
So is it better or worse than normal super? Can any cars use it?
Most Unleaded in the UK is E5 (i.e. 5% content) but most Super is still E0.

Just if you're interested like!
So E0 (None) is good? and E10 (10%) bad? I thought drag cars ran on ethanol?
I didnt say that Jonny boy, just stating fact!

JonnyFive

29,387 posts

188 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Mr MXT said:
JonnyFive said:
Mr MXT said:
Andrew[MG] said:
wedgeinald said:
Andrew[MG] said:
What is this E10 ethanol super unleaded you speak of?
90% petrol 10% "bio" ethanol.

A step towards a "green" fuel aparently...
So is it better or worse than normal super? Can any cars use it?
Most Unleaded in the UK is E5 (i.e. 5% content) but most Super is still E0.

Just if you're interested like!
So E0 (None) is good? and E10 (10%) bad? I thought drag cars ran on ethanol?
I didnt say that Jonny boy, just stating fact!
No I know man, I'm just saying.. Is adding Ethanol to the fuel good for the cars, or is pure petrol (VPower?) etc better as it has no Ethanol in it?