AJP 4.2 liners

AJP 4.2 liners

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Byker28i

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59,770 posts

217 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Just had the coil packs changed as the car was misfiring. Whilst there it was noticed that compression was down on cylinders 1&3 so I'm looking at the rebuild possibilities. I'm hoping it's just rings but...

It doesn't appear there's any 4.2 cylinder liners around at the moment. Anyone got some put aside? The alternative is to go 4.5 but that gets very expensive as I'll need lots such as crank, pistons, liners etc... frown

Jhonno

5,772 posts

141 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Depends what liners you have currently.. Crank and rods are the same.. If you have the "Siamese" liners you can bore them out to 91mm. The cost will then just be pistons and boring.

Westwood liners are making some for another 4.2 owner currently, worth a call?

scerbera

85 posts

107 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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I'm planning to increase stroke on my rebuild so will need new liners, i hope to be getting around to looking at engine within the next 4 weeks. I have a 4.2 so could work out, i'd want to sell as a set though probably. I have no idea condition as yet. Thanks.

Jhonno

5,772 posts

141 months

Saturday 16th September 2017
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scerbera said:
I'm planning to increase stroke on my rebuild so will need new liners, i hope to be getting around to looking at engine within the next 4 weeks. I have a 4.2 so could work out, i'd want to sell as a set though probably. I have no idea condition as yet. Thanks.
Why will longer stroke need new liners? Except if you were going 5.0+ and needed deck spacers..

scerbera

85 posts

107 months

Saturday 16th September 2017
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Jhonno said:
Why will longer stroke need new liners? Except if you were going 5.0+ and needed deck spacers..
Sure, I have hopefully acquired a crank with a stroke of 103mm.

Jhonno

5,772 posts

141 months

Saturday 16th September 2017
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scerbera said:
Jhonno said:
Why will longer stroke need new liners? Except if you were going 5.0+ and needed deck spacers..
Sure, I have hopefully acquired a crank with a stroke of 103mm.
Ah.. The 5.4 crank! Fair enough.. Good luck with the build! I assume there will be significant headwork to go with and support the extra capacity? I can't wait to see what characteristics the engine has..

Byker28i

Original Poster:

59,770 posts

217 months

Saturday 16th September 2017
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Thanks all. I've no idea what condition the engine is in yet. Replacing the coils has got rid of the misfire but compression is low on pots 1 &3 and I had an oiled plug. Drove it home last night and it didn't seem too bad so I'm forever the optimist that it shouldn't be too bad. The engines around 55K miles.

I'm going to get the engine out next month and sent to Jason at Str8six, I think he's the best specialist for this, but he has no window to do it until after 16th October, so I've around a month to sort something out.

Scerbera - if your liners are good then I'll be interested. If not required I'll keep them as spares as I plan to hang onto my car for a long time yet.
Jhonno - thanks for the hint for Westwood liners, I'll contact them and see what they say.

Oh well, engines the only thing left that hasn't been touched since it came from the factory. It really will be like a new car after all the work over the last 5 years!

Jhonno

5,772 posts

141 months

Saturday 16th September 2017
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Oiled plug could be valve guides/stem seals? Does it smoke on overrun?

Byker28i

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59,770 posts

217 months

Saturday 16th September 2017
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Jhonno said:
Oiled plug could be valve guides/stem seals? Does it smoke on overrun?
Hard to tell and was my thought, I'm told it's smokey on one side. Now the doubts there, I'll get it stripped and looked over.
Perhaps chasing that McLaren P1 at Spa wasn't a good idea (yes it was biggrin )

Chim450

1,452 posts

261 months

Saturday 16th September 2017
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Byker28i said:
Hard to tell and was my thought, I'm told it's smokey on one side. Now the doubts there, I'll get it stripped and looked over.
Just to be cheery, does it use much coolant? Low compression and smokey exhaust (especially if white) could be a cracked/porous block.

Byker28i

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59,770 posts

217 months

Saturday 16th September 2017
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Chim450 said:
Byker28i said:
Hard to tell and was my thought, I'm told it's smokey on one side. Now the doubts there, I'll get it stripped and looked over.
Just to be cheery, does it use much coolant? Low compression and smokey exhaust (especially if white) could be a cracked/porous block.
Nope - no coolant loss and nothing more than the usual tiny bit of oil top up every 1000 miles or so. Since the MOT it's done 1800 miles, off to Spa and around the track, other journeys, and only needed a little top up.

Byker28i

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59,770 posts

217 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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Jhonno said:
Depends what liners you have currently.. Crank and rods are the same.. If you have the "Siamese" liners you can bore them out to 91mm. The cost will then just be pistons and boring.

Westwood liners are making some for another 4.2 owner currently, worth a call?
Westwood liners make the AJP liners for TVR Power and only to their design, so they are only available through Dom

Jhonno

5,772 posts

141 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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Byker28i said:
Westwood liners make the AJP liners for TVR Power and only to their design, so they are only available through Dom
Lol.. Well, TVR's design..

Ardmedden

4 posts

88 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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I've quite a few spare engine parts including 4.2 liners and pistons which are available.

Chimp871

837 posts

117 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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thread resurrection...

Ordering piston rings, manufacturer is asking is the liners are plain iron or coated, nikasil etc.

Any ideas?

Byker28i

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59,770 posts

217 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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No idea. Turned out mine were ok

Bogsye

391 posts

152 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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Not sure, but I bought mine through Performance Unlimited. They were made by Total Seal. Worth giving Performance Unlimited a call, as they seemed very familiar with the needs.

Brian

Chimp871

837 posts

117 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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Bogsye said:
Not sure, but I bought mine through Performance Unlimited. They were made by Total Seal. Worth giving Performance Unlimited a call, as they seemed very familiar with the needs.

Brian
They're the ones who are asking.

Bogsye

391 posts

152 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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Hmmh. I’ll PM you
Cheers
Brian

Chimp871

837 posts

117 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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Bogsye said:
Hmmh. I’ll PM you
Cheers
Brian
Bogseye - if you've a 4.2 can you let me know the measurements you supplied for the rings, bore and piston grooves to Performance Unlimited. Just want to check my measurements.

TVR parts did, but now don't have rings in stock, they were around £130 inclusive, which is fair. Sadly some way off getting new stock.