Should I shouldn't I - TVR v M3
Discussion
m4tti said:
Stu-nph26 said:
Just noticed this beaut in the classifieds https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Does anyone know the cars? thoughts, please? I was looking for a V8 but have I been too hasty to rule out the 4.0l.
Parts supply is better for the speed six...just about every single part is available including new head castings. The only thing that isn’t is blocks. Does anyone know the cars? thoughts, please? I was looking for a V8 but have I been too hasty to rule out the 4.0l.
Jhonno said:
m4tti said:
Stu-nph26 said:
Just noticed this beaut in the classifieds https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Does anyone know the cars? thoughts, please? I was looking for a V8 but have I been too hasty to rule out the 4.0l.
Parts supply is better for the speed six...just about every single part is available including new head castings. The only thing that isn’t is blocks. Does anyone know the cars? thoughts, please? I was looking for a V8 but have I been too hasty to rule out the 4.0l.
Heads and blocks are actually quite a few around - just at a cost. Most engine builders seem to have quite a few spares, then there's the parts breakers and other owners.
Byker28i said:
I can honestly say there's no problem getting parts, I think nearly everything new is going into my engine.
Heads and blocks are actually quite a few around - just at a cost. Most engine builders seem to have quite a few spares, then there's the parts breakers and other owners.
How much of a premium do you pay for TVR parts? in comparison to something like M tax on a M3? Heads and blocks are actually quite a few around - just at a cost. Most engine builders seem to have quite a few spares, then there's the parts breakers and other owners.
Stu-nph26 said:
So browsing the classifieds at lunchtime I found this beauty https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
I was all set on buying an e92 M3 but my heart tells me I should get the TVR and my head says get the M3 with a year AUC warranty.
Does anyone know this particular car? Am I mad to be considering the TVR, I love the cars but I'm concerned it'll be ruinous.
Way back in 2002 I went the other way, sold my lovely Griffith 500 and bought an "M" Roadster with the necessary AUC Warranty. Having read all the reviews and yearned for the ease of an electric roof, what a huge MISTAKE that was. The car performed O.K., but it was " Oh so Boring". I was all set on buying an e92 M3 but my heart tells me I should get the TVR and my head says get the M3 with a year AUC warranty.
Does anyone know this particular car? Am I mad to be considering the TVR, I love the cars but I'm concerned it'll be ruinous.
6 months later, I was back in another Griffith 500 (heaven again) - I didn't realise how much more luxurious the Griff was and it felt smoother on the road too!
Stu-nph26 said:
Byker28i said:
I can honestly say there's no problem getting parts, I think nearly everything new is going into my engine.
Heads and blocks are actually quite a few around - just at a cost. Most engine builders seem to have quite a few spares, then there's the parts breakers and other owners.
How much of a premium do you pay for TVR parts? in comparison to something like M tax on a M3? Heads and blocks are actually quite a few around - just at a cost. Most engine builders seem to have quite a few spares, then there's the parts breakers and other owners.
popegregory said:
Stu, have a search for the Cerbera owners and enthusiasts page on Facebook. Loads of advice to be had on there too.
I would definitely advise sticking a first post in there asking about the merits of the Speed Six versus the V8 and seeing what people think.
I would definitely advise sticking a first post in there asking about the merits of the Speed Six versus the V8 and seeing what people think.
I really wouldn't do that if I were you..
Please don't post that in the Facebook group, for f
s sake.
Yes we all hide behind silly names on PH and that might seem childish, but some of the people on there are just babies.
Some great advice, but also some complete, unnecessarily sassy, clowns.
Heads and wet sump blocks are the tricky bits for the AJP8. Everything else is available but can be expensive because of being made in low volume.
From my own painful experience, if the AJP8 in your prospective car hasn't been built by Power or Str8six, my advice would be to not even think about it.
As far as these cars are concerned, given that the AJP8 only appears in the Cerbera in road form, for me certainly, the Cerbera is all about the AJP8. How many other road cars with a hand built chassis, hand built body, hand trimmed interior and hand wired electrics also have their own hand built engine unique to that model?
It's a wonderful engine with great character and a distinct note. It completely dominates the experience of the car in a manner that I've not felt in any other.
The speed 6 might well suit your needs, but I really think you need to experience both engines.
Be patient and make the most educated decision possible, as you seem to be doing.
s sake.Yes we all hide behind silly names on PH and that might seem childish, but some of the people on there are just babies.
Some great advice, but also some complete, unnecessarily sassy, clowns.
Heads and wet sump blocks are the tricky bits for the AJP8. Everything else is available but can be expensive because of being made in low volume.
From my own painful experience, if the AJP8 in your prospective car hasn't been built by Power or Str8six, my advice would be to not even think about it.
As far as these cars are concerned, given that the AJP8 only appears in the Cerbera in road form, for me certainly, the Cerbera is all about the AJP8. How many other road cars with a hand built chassis, hand built body, hand trimmed interior and hand wired electrics also have their own hand built engine unique to that model?
It's a wonderful engine with great character and a distinct note. It completely dominates the experience of the car in a manner that I've not felt in any other.
The speed 6 might well suit your needs, but I really think you need to experience both engines.
Be patient and make the most educated decision possible, as you seem to be doing.
I’m not a member of the AJP police by any means, but for me, in a Cerb, it just has to be the V8. In any of the other later cars, the Speed Six is a perfect match. The old school english sports car with the quintessential big burly straight six. The Cerb though, is all about the AJP. It’s brutal.
Jhonno said:
Stu-nph26 said:
Byker28i said:
I can honestly say there's no problem getting parts, I think nearly everything new is going into my engine.
Heads and blocks are actually quite a few around - just at a cost. Most engine builders seem to have quite a few spares, then there's the parts breakers and other owners.
How much of a premium do you pay for TVR parts? in comparison to something like M tax on a M3? Heads and blocks are actually quite a few around - just at a cost. Most engine builders seem to have quite a few spares, then there's the parts breakers and other owners.
Rebuilds seem to be much less frequent than a S6. Just had a friend with another S6 top end rebuild needed 20K miles after the last rebuild, all done by recognised specialists.
robsco said:
I’m not a member of the AJP police by any means, but for me, in a Cerb, it just has to be the V8. In any of the other later cars, the Speed Six is a perfect match. The old school english sports car with the quintessential big burly straight six. The Cerb though, is all about the AJP. It’s brutal.
This.Stu-nph26 said:
I think I'll save the arguing on the Facebook page. I am very interested to find how many people keep their Cerbs outside that is the main worry I have at the moment
There is the advantage of a waterproof roof 
If any of those slower two seaters tell you that you can't take the roof off, just tell them we takes the sides off instead, electrically (lower windows)
Little update here for everyone still haven't found a Cerb and almost got tired of waiting. However, something has come up a little leftfield. Its a TVR Cerbera 1997 4.2 AJP V8 in Red 30k on the clock for 14k. Whats the catch I hear you ask, well there is one, and that's what I'd like some opinions on.
The car was a Cat B insurance write-off and was repaired with a new chassis and the number transferred. When the repairer
applied to DVLA there was insufficient evidence to prove the cars age so a Q plate was issued and it was named as a
1988 Ford Quantum kit car. Q636GVC
HHC Sportscars have carried out a full inspection to authenticate this car and the report is part of the history folder
In part they reported that "The car is a TVR Cerbera not a Ford Quantum kit car and that the chassis has a chassis number
that would have been issued by TVR Engineering in 1997 when the car was manufactured."
So what's your opinions, is it worth the risk? Not sure how it can be registered as a Ford Quantum kit car???
The car was a Cat B insurance write-off and was repaired with a new chassis and the number transferred. When the repairer
applied to DVLA there was insufficient evidence to prove the cars age so a Q plate was issued and it was named as a
1988 Ford Quantum kit car. Q636GVC
HHC Sportscars have carried out a full inspection to authenticate this car and the report is part of the history folder
In part they reported that "The car is a TVR Cerbera not a Ford Quantum kit car and that the chassis has a chassis number
that would have been issued by TVR Engineering in 1997 when the car was manufactured."
So what's your opinions, is it worth the risk? Not sure how it can be registered as a Ford Quantum kit car???
The price reflects the Insurance Category status and registration. A category B write off is the second most serious write off and usually applies to severe structural damage, hence the new chassis.
As long as you go in with your eyes open and obviously it will need a thorough inspection. I’d also get some insurance quotes too before purchase as insurance can be more expensive on previous write offs.
As long as you go in with your eyes open and obviously it will need a thorough inspection. I’d also get some insurance quotes too before purchase as insurance can be more expensive on previous write offs.
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