Anyone Know This Cerbera?

Anyone Know This Cerbera?

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rockits

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785 posts

161 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383089093032

Although the seller is admitting it isn't concourse doesn't sound to bad a buy does it?

phazed

21,844 posts

203 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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If you are tall, there is little headroom in these cars. Just mentioning it.

Otherwise, could be worth a punt. It will only go tits up if the chassis is rotten or the engine blows up wink

rockits

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785 posts

161 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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I'm 6ft.

I agree. I have always loved the shape of the Cerbera but never liked the idea of the AJP engines. They seems expensive to run in comparison to a RV8 based car.

I guess a Cerbera owner will say they are great but a little unsure. No such thing as a cheap TVR.

rockits

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785 posts

161 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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The black one I saw at Brooklands at auction the other week was sold after the auction it seems for £11750:
https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auctions/2019-0...

Byker28i

58,831 posts

216 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Early car, modified headlights, could be worth a look, it's certainly cheap

rockits

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785 posts

161 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Is early car good or bad? I have no idea on Cerbera's and or AJP V8's as most of my reading/research has been on Chimera's and RV8's?

I prefer the headlight conversion although not a fan of the black paint really. A little too staid for a TVR even for me.

What are the AJP's and the 4.2's like? Ruinous or decent enough?

Do they need a rebuild like the Speed 6's or not so brittle?

Thanks
Dean

Chimp871

837 posts

116 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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rockits said:
Is early car good or bad? I have no idea on Cerbera's and or AJP V8's as most of my reading/research has been on Chimera's and RV8's?

I prefer the headlight conversion although not a fan of the black paint really. A little too staid for a TVR even for me.

What are the AJP's and the 4.2's like? Ruinous or decent enough?

Do they need a rebuild like the Speed 6's or not so brittle?

Thanks
Dean
Better to search the forums, too hard to condense all the history into a post.

Early 4.2 usually means small journal crank. But then you’ll read about porous blocks and other small probability nightmares which will scare you off.

I suggest you get someone who can inspect tvr’s. I’ve got both a chim and an early 4.2 cerb, but with larger crank, they sound completely different. The cerb sounds orrible on start up, but sings higher up the revs.

But buy on condition, this is very cheap and there’s always a reason for that. If it were me I’d want to know more, he’s even inviting offers on that price.

And be prepared to spend money on it and get your spanners ready, as no matter what you pay on any cerb you’ll need to spend more.

rockits

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785 posts

161 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Thanks, I will have a browse through tonight.

I think I have really wound the seller up now! I asked a couple of quick basic questions and found out the car is Rochdale miles from me. I offered to take a punt on the car for a lower price than he has it advertised for and it was a firm no.

When I asked if I could bring up a TVR Specialist with me to view the car and do an inspection it all went a bit funny. He told me to forget it and won't respond to my messages now.

Either a character clash and I have rubbed him up the wrong way or maybe the car has something to hide. Seemed a decent enough example that the seller has had for 3 years. A bit odd.

ianwayne

6,244 posts

267 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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It says it's in Rochdale in the listing, unless it was added? There's a thread on this car from 2 yrs ago:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=16...

HarryW

15,150 posts

268 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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What’s the going price for Cerbs now, I’m thinking of offloading mine, whilst not pristine is mechanically v good and looked after by Andy. I think my engine could be worth more than that one if you were to get it built now, but I realise they are never worth the sum of their parts, just don’t know where to start.... ideas?

ianwayne

6,244 posts

267 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Another mention by a previous owner:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...


Chimp871

837 posts

116 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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If they're being funny about an indy visit then I personally would walk.

The worst scenario is the engine has a problem like crank failing etc. These engines don't exist on the market, or rarely come up.

Amost all of us owners on here would not object to a known indy inspection, we recommend it enough for new tvr owners.

Edited by Chimp871 on Tuesday 6th August 21:34

rockits

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785 posts

161 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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HarryW said:
What’s the going price for Cerbs now, I’m thinking of offloading mine, whilst not pristine is mechanically v good and looked after by Andy. I think my engine could be worth more than that one if you were to get it built now, but I realise they are never worth the sum of their parts, just don’t know where to start.... ideas?
I've got no idea....I'm as confused as anyone. So many models and a massive spread in pricing. All I know is there seems to be a ton of cars for sale out there TVR and otherwise bit hardly any seem to be selling. The market is very flat and on its backside.

I'm not sure I fancy having £20k-£25k or more tied up in a TVR at the moment.

rockits

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785 posts

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Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Chimp871 said:
If they're being funny about an indy visit then I personally would walk.

The worst scenario is the engine has a problem like crank failing etc. These engines don't exist on the market, or rarely come up.

Amost all of us owners on here would not object to a known indy inspection, we recommend it enough for new tvr owners.

Edited by Chimp871 on Tuesday 6th August 21:34
Yes, I found it a little odd but often but not always meaning something is possibly trying to be concealed. I'm not sure.

I have never had an issue in anyone looking at anything and everything for as long as they wanted on my cars when I sell them. I've even got a lift in the garage and put them up so people can see underneath.

I don't know.

rockits

Original Poster:

785 posts

161 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Seems like the guy services the car himself as well so not sure if it has a proper service including valve clearances checked/adjusted for at least 3 years while they have had it.

Seems like too much risk at the moment and miles away from me as I'm just outside Potters Bar, Herts. Is certainly fairly cost effective to start with but we.all know that can change quickly.

Cyclone1

2,600 posts

245 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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It was a very decent car when Dave Smith had it. I had my two Cerbs (4.2&4.5) around the same time. Would think it is worth viewing, but likely to need a bit of work.

Harry’s car is likely to be a decent proposal also....

rockits

Original Poster:

785 posts

161 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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I'm all over the shop with this TVR change at the moment. All I know is a have a nice enough Chimaera that is causing me zero grief and doesn't owe me silly money.

Seems like any direction Info in is likely to cost me more day one and more to run jus trying to work out if the change is worth the extra cash and hassle.

Cyclone1

2,600 posts

245 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Not an easy decision especially as you have a decent Chimaera. I’ve started following the Cerb forums again as I still hanker after another one. Amazing cars with a unique look and feel......would love one alongside the AMG...

rockits

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785 posts

161 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Indeed....I'll keep thinking. I still have the red Chimaera 500 on my shortlist but struggling to make the numbers work in my head on that one as well.

Ah, a CLS63.....very nice. You like it?

I've had a few AMG's. An SL60, SL55 and two 211 E55K Estate's. Nearly got a CLS55K last year but went for the XJL SuperSport instead.

rockits

Original Poster:

785 posts

161 months

Wednesday 7th August 2019
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Just found a Wheeler Dealers on Quest HD now. Funnily enough on the TVR Cerbera!

He bought this one for £8k. How times and prices have changed then.