ElectroGenic Cerbera EV conversion

ElectroGenic Cerbera EV conversion

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Byker28i

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59,569 posts

217 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Electrogenic on Instagram are converting a Cerbera to EV, with a tesla motor.

35Kw battery pack in the front, motor down the tunnel, could be one to watch

lancelin

238 posts

121 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Sounds interesting. Perhaps a company can bring out affordable kits for DIY conversions.

TwinKam

2,969 posts

95 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Still not a lot of space for batteries is there, esp when you consider that the whole of the Tesla floor is the batteries...

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Much more depth under the bonnet than the floor area, batteries could be in layers

Clever innit

Zeb74

376 posts

129 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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35kW... The range will be around 120 miles, not a lot more.
However, price appart, this could be a very nice daily car to commute with.

Jhonno

5,766 posts

141 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Zeb74 said:
35kW... The range will be around 120 miles, not a lot more.
However, price appart, this could be a very nice daily car to commute with.

If you added softer suspension, heated seats, sat nav, decent stereo, working heater, all the othe modern gubbins etc etc.. All the stuff you actually want from a nice daily.

Jhonno

5,766 posts

141 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Penelope Stopit said:
Much more depth under the bonnet than the floor area, batteries could be in layers

Clever innit
Bye bye 50:50 weight distribution.

TR4man

5,222 posts

174 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Wonder if they will replicate the noise?

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Jhonno said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Much more depth under the bonnet than the floor area, batteries could be in layers

Clever innit
Bye bye 50:50 weight distribution.
Yes, perhaps not so clever

Another bunch of batteries in the boot?

lancelin

238 posts

121 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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The range wouldn’t bother me. I don’t drive long distances in mine anyway. The acceleration would be amazing. Battery location is the big challenge. The loss of a V8 soundtrack is sad and the challenge of driving a V8 sports car. I wonder if you had a petrol and electric TVR - which one would you drive the most.

Gladers01

592 posts

48 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Byker28i said:
Electrogenic on Instagram are converting a Cerbera to EV, with a tesla motor.

35Kw battery pack in the front, motor down the tunnel, could be one to watch
That's interesting, Tesla seem to be leading the way in this technology, the latest Tesla S is using a 3 phase AC induction motor (1890 invention) to drive the front wheels via a motor speed controller (inverter) to invert the DC to AC, for the rear wheel drive they are now using a permanent magnet (DC brushless) reluctance motor, the AC motor is good for performance, the DC motor is good for range, in theory this combination should be the best of both worlds, what type of motor are they using for this project ? My guess would be the AC induction motor, is there a linky ? read

MoonMonkey

119 posts

127 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Bit early for April Fools Day

Surely a Cerbera is the nemesis of a Tesla

TwinKam

2,969 posts

95 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Penelope Stopit said:
Jhonno said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Much more depth under the bonnet than the floor area, batteries could be in layers

Clever innit
Bye bye 50:50 weight distribution.
Yes, perhaps not so clever

Another bunch of batteries in the boot?
Bye bye practicality.
The Tesla works well because it's a clean sheet design, weight distribution is cleverly optimised but it does make for a taller car. As others have already said, sports cars do not lend themselves well to this EV malarkey.

jeremyc

23,432 posts

284 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Check out the Lotus Elon which also uses Tesla hardware and software.




Jhonno

5,766 posts

141 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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lancelin said:
The range wouldn’t bother me. I don’t drive long distances in mine anyway. The acceleration would be amazing. Battery location is the big challenge. The loss of a V8 soundtrack is sad and the challenge of driving a V8 sports car. I wonder if you had a petrol and electric TVR - which one would you drive the most.
Seeing as the Cerbera is traction limited anyway.. Unless they went 4x4 I doubt it would be much faster. Once a Cerb gets into it's stride an EV is starting to tail off..

Imran999

351 posts

153 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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Sacrilege...
For me, the Cerbera is really characterized by the V8, the thunderous exhaust, the pops and bangs, the rifle-bolt gearshift, the slight whiff of petrol and masses of heat that emanate from the engine and gearbox.
I also quite enjoy refuelling, as we only pay about 60p/litre over here, and someone always wanders over to ask what it is and what’ll it do.

An electric version that forgoes all this?
Not likely!

TwinKam

2,969 posts

95 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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Jhonno said:
lancelin said:
The range wouldn’t bother me. I don’t drive long distances in mine anyway. The acceleration would be amazing. Battery location is the big challenge. The loss of a V8 soundtrack is sad and the challenge of driving a V8 sports car. I wonder if you had a petrol and electric TVR - which one would you drive the most.
Seeing as the Cerbera is traction limited anyway.. Unless they went 4x4 I doubt it would be much faster. Once a Cerb gets into it's stride an EV is starting to tail off..
Traction might be improved with that extra tonne of batteries in the boot... hehe

Zeb74

376 posts

129 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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A 64kW pack with electronic of a Tesla weights 430kg.
Here it should be about the half, the AJP8 is light, but this car was previously equipped with a LS. And if you remove the gearbox, you should be close to the 200kgs, no? And the electric engine will compensate the weight of the fuel tank.


Jhonno

5,766 posts

141 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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TwinKam said:
Jhonno said:
lancelin said:
The range wouldn’t bother me. I don’t drive long distances in mine anyway. The acceleration would be amazing. Battery location is the big challenge. The loss of a V8 soundtrack is sad and the challenge of driving a V8 sports car. I wonder if you had a petrol and electric TVR - which one would you drive the most.
Seeing as the Cerbera is traction limited anyway.. Unless they went 4x4 I doubt it would be much faster. Once a Cerb gets into it's stride an EV is starting to tail off..
Traction might be improved with that extra tonne of batteries in the boot... hehe
laughlaugh Good point!

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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Good traction when leaving the supermarket