Has anyone ever taken the roof off a cerbera.

Has anyone ever taken the roof off a cerbera.

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jazzybees

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829 posts

122 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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My dream TVR, would be a cerbera convertible.
A Cerbera, with the roof off.
Yes, I know some may say, the Chimaera fits that bill.
They look very similar from the front, the rear and the side views.
But the cerbera, is lower, wider, longer.
As more curves, and looks like a chimaera on steroids.
I’m not going to mention the interior or under the bonnet, they are definitely different.
Has anyone anywhere ever taken the roof off a cerbera?
(I have read somewhere, that the body is not stiff enough, if you take the roof off)

jazzybees

Original Poster:

829 posts

122 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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My dream TVR, would be a cerbera convertible.
A Cerbera, with the roof off.
Yes, I know some may say, the Chimaera fits that bill.
They look very similar from the front, the rear and the side views.
But the cerbera, is lower, wider, longer.
As more curves, and looks like a chimaera on steroids.
I’m not going to mention the interior or under the bonnet, they are definitely different.
Has anyone anywhere ever taken the roof off a cerbera?
(I have read somewhere, that the body is not stiff enough, if you take the roof off)

CanoeSniffer

927 posts

87 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Apart from the styling, they’re totally unrelated cars- in fact the Chimaera - Cerbera step change was probably TVR’s most transformative period of the 90s what with the introduction of their own engines, so many more bespoke parts etc. It’s almost misleading that they share the same styling cues, far too many times I’ve seen the phrase ‘Cerbera convertible’ or ‘hardtop Chimaera’ used to describe one or t’other.

It’s an interesting idea, the swooping roofline with those huge windows is a big part of the design- and I think hides quite how crazily long and low the Cerbera actually is. My initial thoughts are that any change to the roofline could result in something that looks quite out of proportion and odd.

Also worth noting that it’s not purely fibreglass above the windowline, there’s an intrinsic rollcage engineered in (though whether that’s made of hollow tubing, gnarly grade steel or cardboard tubes I have no idea- TVR and all).

ninetynine

537 posts

242 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Brendan at concept performance does a very good sunroof for the cerb

ukkid35

6,175 posts

173 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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If anyone is likely to do so, my money is on Plasticman

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Robscim

795 posts

256 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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I may be making this up, but I have a vague recollection of someone fitting a targa panel roof to a Cerbera many moons ago.

It may just be old age and my memory not being what it was!!! hehe

I'm also fairly convinced someone fitted a large sunroof that opened over the top of the roof (if you get my drift?).

I'm sure others will have a better memory??

Rob

Jhonno

5,768 posts

141 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Robscim said:
I may be making this up, but I have a vague recollection of someone fitting a targa panel roof to a Cerbera many moons ago.

It may just be old age and my memory not being what it was!!! hehe

I'm also fairly convinced someone fitted a large sunroof that opened over the top of the roof (if you get my drift?).

I'm sure others will have a better memory??

Rob
Someone is currently fitting a sunroof to one..

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Robscim said:
I may be making this up, but I have a vague recollection of someone fitting a targa panel roof to a Cerbera many moons ago.

It may just be old age and my memory not being what it was!!! hehe

I'm also fairly convinced someone fitted a large sunroof that opened over the top of the roof (if you get my drift?).

I'm sure others will have a better memory??

Rob
Yep, light blue car has a sunroof. Caused a stir at Chatsworth about 2010 I think.

There's a silvery grey car with a glass one as well.

ukkid35

6,175 posts

173 months

jazzybees

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829 posts

122 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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CanoeSniffer said:
Apart from the styling, they’re totally unrelated cars- in fact the Chimaera - Cerbera step change was probably TVR’s most transformative period of the 90s what with the introduction of their own engines, so many more bespoke parts etc. It’s almost misleading that they share the same styling cues, far too many times I’ve seen the phrase ‘Cerbera convertible’ or ‘hardtop Chimaera’ used to describe one or t’other.

It’s an interesting idea, the swooping roofline with those huge windows is a big part of the design- and I think hides quite how crazily long and low the Cerbera actually is. My initial thoughts are that any change to the roofline could result in something that looks quite out of proportion and odd.

Also worth noting that it’s not purely fibreglass above the windowline, there’s an intrinsic rollcage engineered in (though whether that’s made of hollow tubing, gnarly grade steel or cardboard tubes I have no idea- TVR and all).
I quite agree with you.
They are indeed totally unrelated cars. (Although share the same styling cues, but the cerbera been crazily long, low and wide.)
A Cerbera is not a hard-top chimaera.
And a Chimaera is not a Cerbera convertible.
That’s why my dream TVR would be a Cerbera with the roof off.
Completely off, not a sun roof or targa.
Has anyone ever taken the roof off a TVR Cerbera?

jazzybees

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ukkid35 said:
Wow that looks great.
Love the headlights, and paint work.
I wonder what it looks like with the targa removed.
Maybe that would be the best way to go.
Buy a Cerbera which had been involved in an accident were it had rolled or had roof damage.
And cut the roof off.
I wonder if anyone had down that ?




C350Akra

11,629 posts

280 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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How much money do you have? Anything is possible if you throw enough money at it. Given the structure of a Cerbera I doubt it will be easy or cheap to come up with an effective top removal and will not be an investment you would get a return on.

jazzybees

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Monday 8th February 2021
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C350Akra said:
How much money do you have? Anything is possible if you throw enough money at it. Given the structure of a Cerbera I doubt it will be easy or cheap to come up with an effective top removal and will not be an investment you would get a return on.
I would never sell it.
I’m not sure on the weight difference.
But I would imagine, structurally the cerbera and chimaera. Would not be much different .

plasticman

899 posts

251 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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The problem is the roll cage .Even if removing did not affect the structural rigidity of the car you would struggle with insurance . This is the main reason for me starting with Tamora or Tuscan when I made the Sagaris convertibles .

jazzybees

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plasticman said:
The problem is the roll cage .Even if removing did not affect the structural rigidity of the car you would struggle with insurance . This is the main reason for me starting with Tamora or Tuscan when I made the Sagaris convertibles .
I hadn’t thought about the insurance.
Yes I imagine you would struggle to get it insured.
A sagaris convertible, would be the ultimate convertible TVR
The photos of your car during the build, do look stunning.
Have you any photos of your finished sagaris convertible with the roof off.
Thank you.




KKson

3,403 posts

125 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Was it this one?

MarkwG

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189 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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jazzybees said:
My dream TVR, would be a cerbera convertible.
A Cerbera, with the roof off....(I have read somewhere, that the body is not stiff enough, if you take the roof off)
I'm working from memory, but I think the Cerbera has a strengthening beam running from the A pillar to the B pillar, on each side. If I've recalled that correctly, I imagine you'd lose a lot of strength if you cut or removed it. You might be able to rig up something like this - (but it ain't pretty wink )

LLantrisant

996 posts

159 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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the cerbera has an integrated rollcage or rollbar...so cutting the roof or opening the roof for a large "sunroof" will destroy the strenghth and the safety of the car.



why not buy one of those?
4 seats, famous british engineering , fibreglass, steel chassis, convertible.




TwinKam

2,975 posts

95 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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LLantrisant said:
the cerbera has an integrated rollcage or rollbar...so cutting the roof or opening the roof for a large "sunroof" will destroy the strenghth and the safety of the car.
Care to explain your thinking here?

jazzybees

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122 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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KKson said:
Was it this one?
Aww yes, that really looks like a dream car.
Well done, thumbs up to the person who done the conversion.
While I’m thinking and dreaming about it.
They have actually gone out and done it.
That looks fantastic.