Cerbera Best Pic

Cerbera Best Pic

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DuncanM

5,069 posts

261 months

Monday 8th August
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Mine wasn't broken, I'm not an aircon fan, and so when I had the choice, I didn't put it back on.

If I were to tour in it then I'd put it back in for sure.

notaping

147 posts

53 months

Monday 8th August
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17kg - blimey !! What on earth have you got fitted to your car. The standard one is only about 3kg.

And if you're removing it just because it's ugly - give it a polish.

From barnacle to bling . . .


aide

2,259 posts

146 months

Monday 8th August
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That was fun.

aide

2,259 posts

146 months

Tuesday 9th August
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Departmental Roads to Calais..







aide

2,259 posts

146 months

Tuesday 9th August
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D R E A M
M A C H I N E


Jhonno

4,560 posts

123 months

Tuesday 9th August
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notaping said:
17kg - blimey !! What on earth have you got fitted to your car. The standard one is only about 3kg.

And if you're removing it just because it's ugly - give it a polish.

From barnacle to bling . . .

That is for the complete removal of the system.. The pump definitely weighs more than 3kg mind.

DuncanM

5,069 posts

261 months

Tuesday 9th August
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aide said:
D R E A M
M A C H I N E

Just wow, what a trip you've been on!

aide

2,259 posts

146 months

Tuesday 9th August
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Must be careful, speeding camera ahead! hehe


Byker28i

44,926 posts

199 months

Tuesday 9th August
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Caddyshack said:
Jhonno said:
Byker28i said:
Why take it out? If it isn't working, the clutch wont be engaged so won't be using power. Weight must be minimal
It's about 17kg, so not insignificant.
No, that is a quite a substantial weight saving, zero cost...compare that to the cost per bhp of tuning to get the same power to weight, same braking etc. If you are on a weight saving mission with a light car to start with 17kg is a good result...especially if it is broken in the first place.
My car weighed 1170kg so at best thats 1.5% of the weight. I really doubt thats even noticeable in real terms.
I weigh 10 stone - maybe you should all get smaller drivers, or diet biggrin

plus as said - you can always polish it. I did mine when the engine was apart

Each to their own. My original invoice said it was a £1595.74 option (plus vat)

Jhonno

4,560 posts

123 months

Tuesday 9th August
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Byker28i said:
Caddyshack said:
Jhonno said:
Byker28i said:
Why take it out? If it isn't working, the clutch wont be engaged so won't be using power. Weight must be minimal
It's about 17kg, so not insignificant.
No, that is a quite a substantial weight saving, zero cost...compare that to the cost per bhp of tuning to get the same power to weight, same braking etc. If you are on a weight saving mission with a light car to start with 17kg is a good result...especially if it is broken in the first place.
My car weighed 1170kg so at best thats 1.5% of the weight. I really doubt thats even noticeable in real terms.
I weigh 10 stone - maybe you should all get smaller drivers, or diet biggrin

plus as said - you can always polish it. I did mine when the engine was apart

Each to their own. My original invoice said it was a £1595.74 option (plus vat)
5bhp/tonne for free and best part of 20kg off the nose.. I guess if you just pop to the shops or pootle to the pub on a Sunday you wouldn't notice. For the sake of something that might have been broken as reason for removal.

Swap the seats out, fit some lighter wheels and you could be 75kg down with very little work. Improved ride/handling/going/stopping..


Edited by Jhonno on Tuesday 9th August 14:02

aide

2,259 posts

146 months

Tuesday 9th August
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Petrolhead Nirvana




D
P A R T
M E N T A L
D R E A M
M A C H I N E


In Calais now wavey

Byker28i

44,926 posts

199 months

Tuesday 9th August
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Jhonno said:
5bhp/tonne for free and best part of 20kg off the nose.. I guess if you just pop to the shops or pootle to the pub on a Sunday you wouldn't notice. For the sake of something that might have been broken as reason for removal.

Swap the seats out, fit some lighter wheels and you could be 75kg down with very little work. Improved ride/handling/going/stopping..


Edited by Jhonno on Tuesday 9th August 14:02
Seats I'll definitely go with as heavy, in fact Bloody heavy when I took them out, but then they are so comfy (the early ones)

aide

2,259 posts

146 months

Tuesday 9th August
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Edited by aide on Tuesday 9th August 15:08

jstx

10 posts

3 months

Tuesday 9th August
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aide said:
D R E A M
M A C H I N E

You ain't lying bow

aide

2,259 posts

146 months

Tuesday 9th August
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In Club Class on the Ferry.

Heading for Dover.

I reek of Channel No. 4.5!

GermanCerb

53 posts

49 months

Tuesday 16th August
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From the Ring during the weekend smile





driving

Caddyshack

5,848 posts

188 months

Tuesday 16th August
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Jhonno said:
Byker28i said:
Caddyshack said:
Jhonno said:
Byker28i said:
Why take it out? If it isn't working, the clutch wont be engaged so won't be using power. Weight must be minimal
It's about 17kg, so not insignificant.
No, that is a quite a substantial weight saving, zero cost...compare that to the cost per bhp of tuning to get the same power to weight, same braking etc. If you are on a weight saving mission with a light car to start with 17kg is a good result...especially if it is broken in the first place.
My car weighed 1170kg so at best thats 1.5% of the weight. I really doubt thats even noticeable in real terms.
I weigh 10 stone - maybe you should all get smaller drivers, or diet biggrin

plus as said - you can always polish it. I did mine when the engine was apart

Each to their own. My original invoice said it was a £1595.74 option (plus vat)
5bhp/tonne for free and best part of 20kg off the nose.. I guess if you just pop to the shops or pootle to the pub on a Sunday you wouldn't notice. For the sake of something that might have been broken as reason for removal.

Swap the seats out, fit some lighter wheels and you could be 75kg down with very little work. Improved ride/handling/going/stopping..


Edited by Jhonno on Tuesday 9th August 14:02
A lot of people do not get weight saving and often quote the ‘I could lose weight" and whilst they could lose weight they can still benefit more by shedding weight off the car. You are right 75kg would make a huge difference to many aspects of performance and saving 17kg on a broken part that you don’t use is a big chunk of the work done….we all want different things and that makes life interesting.

I have spent a lot of titanium bolts.

Jhonno

4,560 posts

123 months

Wednesday 17th August
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GermanCerb said:
From the Ring during the weekend smile





driving
bow

Great pics! Cerb looks superb.

DuncanM

5,069 posts

261 months

Wednesday 17th August
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Jhonno said:
bow

Great pics! Cerb looks superb.
Agree, absolutely stunning, like a promo for a PS5 game smile

Mr Cerbera

4,917 posts

212 months

Thursday 18th August
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Jhonno said:
It's about 17kg, so not insignificant.
Interesting statement. Mine's almost completely apart and I can tell you that, for a 2001 4.5


Compressor = 5.8

Evaporator = Can't get to so no idea

Condenser, Receiver Dryer, Fuel Cooler & Pipes = 6.7

(all Dry)

Much easier (and lighter) to take the Passenger Seat out !

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