Front number plates and the police
Discussion
Algarve said:
Fuoco said:
On a recent Lambo convoy pretty much none of us had front plates, as we met up at service station an Aventador was followed in by a cop car and he was fined for the 3rd time this year for no front plate £100, then the cop slowly drove past all of us I thought he would just blanket fine us all, but just passed us all by, either he has to chatch you driving or he'd had his fill and was done!!
The current system is a joke, quite clearly £100 is nothing to someone driving an Aventador. They should really make the fine tied to your wage, or even the value of the car. Or make it maybe 1-3 pointsJust get a stick on one if you need to. Nobody is going to bother you for this even if its technically not legal.
Have to say the 4dot one above looks very bad too.
I can fully understand why owners don't bother putting them on.
XMT said:
Sorry for that looks horrible.
I don't think its great but I don't think it really takes away from the car - people know its just there as an addon to comply with the rules.I think its by far the best of the options available to me here. I don't want to drill into the bumper and I don't want to take the piss and drive with no plate at all. I'm certainly open to suggestions but this was the best I could come up with in the middle ground
Algarve said:
Fuoco said:
On a recent Lambo convoy pretty much none of us had front plates, as we met up at service station an Aventador was followed in by a cop car and he was fined for the 3rd time this year for no front plate £100, then the cop slowly drove past all of us I thought he would just blanket fine us all, but just passed us all by, either he has to chatch you driving or he'd had his fill and was done!!
The current system is a joke, quite clearly £100 is nothing to someone driving an Aventador. They should really make the fine tied to your wage, or even the value of the car. Or make it maybe 1-3 pointsJust get a stick on one if you need to. Nobody is going to bother you for this even if its technically not legal.
BigR said:
Algarve said:
Fuoco said:
On a recent Lambo convoy pretty much none of us had front plates, as we met up at service station an Aventador was followed in by a cop car and he was fined for the 3rd time this year for no front plate £100, then the cop slowly drove past all of us I thought he would just blanket fine us all, but just passed us all by, either he has to chatch you driving or he'd had his fill and was done!!
The current system is a joke, quite clearly £100 is nothing to someone driving an Aventador. They should really make the fine tied to your wage, or even the value of the car. Or make it maybe 1-3 pointsJust get a stick on one if you need to. Nobody is going to bother you for this even if its technically not legal.
lordbluf said:
indeed. Its a stupid idea that the Swiss implemented.
I don't think its stupid. It means there are consequences of your actions that actually feel like a punishment and might make you think twice about doing it again.Every time I get caught speeding here I just pay the fines and I keep doing it. Why not? They can't give me points or ban me, and losing 600 euros for getting caught 150mph+ is a gamble I'm willing to take. It just doesn't seem very good for everyone else that I'm sitting here and going to break the law on purpose because the penalty doesn't fit the crime
lordbluf said:
What next, a rich person to get a bigger prison sentence for stabbing someone, because he should have known better and didnt have the justification that he had a troubled childhood etc etc? A crime is a crime regardless of who did it (and therefore the sentence should be equal), be that the king or the pauper - hence the creation of the rule of law.
Prison isn't a fair comparison. Both the rich and the poor suffer the same from 6 months inside. Clearly a financial penalty only doesn't work as a one size fits all approach. If you wanted to have the same penalty for everyone I'd be quite happy with 20 hours community service for no number plate.
Galsia said:
I think that if you're caught driving without a front numberplate the police should make you attach it to the car with self-tapping screws there and then.
And there's me thinking the police should focus on islamist terrorism, grooming gangs, Gang/knife crime and the sort....Algarve said:
I don't think its great but I don't think it really takes away from the car - people know its just there as an addon to comply with the rules.
I think its by far the best of the options available to me here. I don't want to drill into the bumper and I don't want to take the piss and drive with no plate at all. I'm certainly open to suggestions but this was the best I could come up with in the middle ground
Is it complying though? Complying with the spirit of the Law doesn't mean it's legal.I think its by far the best of the options available to me here. I don't want to drill into the bumper and I don't want to take the piss and drive with no plate at all. I'm certainly open to suggestions but this was the best I could come up with in the middle ground
I don't think (willing to be corrected) that either the stick on plates or that snapped-in-half one (which looks awful imo) would be deemed legal.
My personal feelings are that you might as well be hung for a sheep as for a lamb. I don't even see it as some kind of elitist "I don't have to play by the rules that you do" thing either. Let's face it, if it came to it it's not going to be particularly hard to locate any supercar in any given area, in the event of a serious traffic incident, and as long as you have the rear one on you're not trying to evade identification completely.
(I realise this is a shaky argument)
Why don't they make it a hanging offence ? It would only take a few incidents and it would cease to be an issue overnight.
My SP30 speeding fine in a rural location was linked to my disposal income which I had to give all sorts of proof of and I ended up getting a bigger fine than a lorry driver that actually killed a person ???? WTF !
Also the following month a certain TV celebrity and multi millionaire was caught speeding at the same place as me and his fine was only £200 more than mine.
I'm sure they make it up as they go along
My SP30 speeding fine in a rural location was linked to my disposal income which I had to give all sorts of proof of and I ended up getting a bigger fine than a lorry driver that actually killed a person ???? WTF !
Also the following month a certain TV celebrity and multi millionaire was caught speeding at the same place as me and his fine was only £200 more than mine.
I'm sure they make it up as they go along
Saw today a new GT2 RS picked up and in front of lots of staff and bystanders like me,a disturbing sight.
New owner did not want number plate on so sales staff scrubbed it on the Tarmac to make it look as though it had fallen off, and then put it in the boot ( front on Porsche).
I wonder if it was a new Micra or such,would this happen?
I am not in favour of the nanny state and there are far too many stupid and unnecessary rules and speed limits. Number plates and the rules surrounding them and their authorisation paper work are a typical example.
However, I do not condone this sort of action and it has just become a fad with some super car owners.
New owner did not want number plate on so sales staff scrubbed it on the Tarmac to make it look as though it had fallen off, and then put it in the boot ( front on Porsche).
I wonder if it was a new Micra or such,would this happen?
I am not in favour of the nanny state and there are far too many stupid and unnecessary rules and speed limits. Number plates and the rules surrounding them and their authorisation paper work are a typical example.
However, I do not condone this sort of action and it has just become a fad with some super car owners.
tiga85 said:
Saw today a new GT2 RS picked up and in front of lots of staff and bystanders like me,a disturbing sight.
New owner did not want number plate on so sales staff scrubbed it on the Tarmac to make it look as though it had fallen off, and then put it in the boot ( front on Porsche).
I wonder if it was a new Micra or such,would this happen?
I am not in favour of the nanny state and there are far too many stupid and unnecessary rules and speed limits. Number plates and the rules surrounding them and their authorisation paper work are a typical example.
However, I do not condone this sort of action and it has just become a fad with some super car owners.
I agree its a bit of one-upmanship by some owners where there clearly is an appropriate space to fit a legal plate . Where the car doesn't lend itself to a full size number plate personally I think displaying a smaller plate should be fine. Case in point belowNew owner did not want number plate on so sales staff scrubbed it on the Tarmac to make it look as though it had fallen off, and then put it in the boot ( front on Porsche).
I wonder if it was a new Micra or such,would this happen?
I am not in favour of the nanny state and there are far too many stupid and unnecessary rules and speed limits. Number plates and the rules surrounding them and their authorisation paper work are a typical example.
However, I do not condone this sort of action and it has just become a fad with some super car owners.
I've also done the same for my Huracan Performante
Rear number plate fell off the gto at spa francorchamps . I drove back to London had s meal with a friend then back home and no one even noticed apart from a black cab that told me I had no number plate on the back .
Obviously it was unintentional but I found it interesting that not a single other person said anything not even the police van that followed me for several hundred metres on Old Brompton r.d.
Obviously it was unintentional but I found it interesting that not a single other person said anything not even the police van that followed me for several hundred metres on Old Brompton r.d.
RamboLambo said:
Why don't they make it a hanging offence ? It would only take a few incidents and it would cease to be an issue overnight.
My SP30 speeding fine in a rural location was linked to my disposal income which I had to give all sorts of proof of and I ended up getting a bigger fine than a lorry driver that actually killed a person ???? WTF !
Also the following month a certain TV celebrity and multi millionaire was caught speeding at the same place as me and his fine was only £200 more than mine.
I'm sure they make it up as they go along
Maybe the Judge was someone on here you had wound up in the past.........My SP30 speeding fine in a rural location was linked to my disposal income which I had to give all sorts of proof of and I ended up getting a bigger fine than a lorry driver that actually killed a person ???? WTF !
Also the following month a certain TV celebrity and multi millionaire was caught speeding at the same place as me and his fine was only £200 more than mine.
I'm sure they make it up as they go along
Just a thought...........
warch said:
I think the fine is 100 quid and a rectification order. So whilst the fine is small change to the average supercar owner, you could be had up in court if you persistently failed to do anything about it.
It’s £60 for non display and £100 for an illegal plate (size/spacing/misinterpreting ) Only time I’ve ever been ticketed was by an over zealous individual at CPoP, an hour later I had two bobbys sitting in the car taking selfies of each other - no mention of plate
It still seems to be a complete lottery
tiga85 said:
Saw today a new GT2 RS picked up and in front of lots of staff and bystanders like me,a disturbing sight.
New owner did not want number plate on so sales staff scrubbed it on the Tarmac to make it look as though it had fallen off, and then put it in the boot ( front on Porsche).
I wonder if it was a new Micra or such,would this happen?
I am not in favour of the nanny state and there are far too many stupid and unnecessary rules and speed limits. Number plates and the rules surrounding them and their authorisation paper work are a typical example.
However, I do not condone this sort of action and it has just become a fad with some super car owners.
My front plate that was in the boot still had the protective film on both the front and the double sided tape on the back New owner did not want number plate on so sales staff scrubbed it on the Tarmac to make it look as though it had fallen off, and then put it in the boot ( front on Porsche).
I wonder if it was a new Micra or such,would this happen?
I am not in favour of the nanny state and there are far too many stupid and unnecessary rules and speed limits. Number plates and the rules surrounding them and their authorisation paper work are a typical example.
However, I do not condone this sort of action and it has just become a fad with some super car owners.
Why bother insulting their intelligence with the whole "it fell off officer" nonsense? If it had actually fallen off, who would notice in time or be in a position to stop?
lordbluf said:
And there's me thinking the police should focus on islamist terrorism, grooming gangs, Gang/knife crime and the sort....
I think the police would much rather been focusing on that sort of stuff, which they could do if ALL people obeyed the rules and didn't think they should be treated differently because it suits them and the rest of the population can go f
k themselves!JagPJ said:
lordbluf said:
And there's me thinking the police should focus on islamist terrorism, grooming gangs, Gang/knife crime and the sort....
I think the police would much rather been focusing on that sort of stuff, which they could do if ALL people obeyed the rules and didn't think they should be treated differently because it suits them and the rest of the population can go fk themselves!Dont let governments define your moral compass - they dont have a great track record.....
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