Manufacturers and The Ring
Discussion
WCZ said:
that's all there is to it imo
I've always wondered why Ultima/Radical never went there though, they could set some fast times
You would think that Ferrari would want to show what the Pista can do! After all their DNA and current F1 position is all about the technical capability to be the fastest around a circuit!I've always wondered why Ultima/Radical never went there though, they could set some fast times
WCZ said:
that's all there is to it imo
I've always wondered why Ultima/Radical never went there though, they could set some fast times
I would imagine expense and possibly risk....no idea but maybe these cars don't have the safety protection that some of the major manufacturers cars. Neither have airbags do they ? Very high speeds and Armco....wonder what the chances of walking away in one of these are vs say a GT3 RS ? I've always wondered why Ultima/Radical never went there though, they could set some fast times
isaldiri said:
You must have missed the Radical SR8 (road legal) that ran under 6:50 years ago.......
I was aware of that one but really see an SR8 with plates lights and indicators as a race car,not really a main stream sports car manufacturer. Maybe the RCX would be a better comparison, I know if people who do drive these on the road and one as a daily 
isaldiri said:
You must have missed the Radical SR8 (road legal) that ran under 6:50 years ago.......
I was aware of that one but really see an SR8 with plates lights and indicators as a race car,not really a main stream sports car manufacturer. Maybe the RCX would be a better comparison, I know if people who do drive these on the road and one as a daily MDL111 said:
I wonder how much downforce a 488 or similar has on a bumpy track like the ring - in the wind tunnel I believe it has more than a GT3RS at 200 kph, but not sure how well it works on uneven surface
Ferrari numbers are a bit let's say economical with the truth. They claimed the 458 had a lot of downforce, when SportAuto put one in their wind tunnel I believe it had negligible rear downforce and lift at the front...and apparently Ferrari had quoted gross downforce numbers without adding back the lift for net overall downforce. And I think now SportAuto simply parrot the Ferrari quoted numbers rather than test them unfortunately. I'd personally be very surprised if the 488 truly had more downforce than a 3rs. It doesn't have a low enough ride height for underfloor aero to really produce decent amounts of aero and obviously doesn't have a big front splitter or rear wing like the rs.The 488 though has pretty good compliance over bumps, the new gen of magride dampers do a much better job than before imo.
isaldiri said:
MDL111 said:
I wonder how much downforce a 488 or similar has on a bumpy track like the ring - in the wind tunnel I believe it has more than a GT3RS at 200 kph, but not sure how well it works on uneven surface
Ferrari numbers are a bit let's say economical with the truth. They claimed the 458 had a lot of downforce, when SportAuto put one in their wind tunnel I believe it had negligible rear downforce and lift at the front...and apparently Ferrari had quoted gross downforce numbers without adding back the lift for net overall downforce. And I think now SportAuto simply parrot the Ferrari quoted numbers rather than test them unfortunately. I'd personally be very surprised if the 488 truly had more downforce than a 3rs. It doesn't have a low enough ride height for underfloor aero to really produce decent amounts of aero and obviously doesn't have a big front splitter or rear wing like the rs.The 488 though has pretty good compliance over bumps, the new gen of magride dampers do a much better job than before imo.
Raygun said:
Why would Ferrari bother going there? What would Ferrari gain in relation to sales? It's home soil for Porsche and Audi/Lamborghini who are always under the Ferrari brand.
I think the halo car in each segment can effect sales on the generic car,eg if Pista is the hottest thing it might win over people considering a 488 vs other brand. Although they are not buying a Pista they are effectively buying into that club.Probably the same with all brands, LT Macs RS Porches Lamborghini SV and Perfas, these all give extra qudos to the more mundane models if we can call them that.Everyone likes to think there part of the trickiest ,quickest club in town!
Why should Ferrari bother with F1,there’s no similarity between a 488 and F1 car, I just guess there in it to win it! Nobody remembers who came second other than JLS and Olly Murrs
Ferruccio said:
Juno said:
Why should Ferrari bother with F1,there’s no similarity between a 488 and F1 car, I just guess there in it to win it!
For Enzo, I believe that it was the other way around. He only did road cars to pay for the race cars.
I guess with regards to Ferrari. What would be the point they already sell all of the special cars before they even show it to the public.
Why take it to the ring and risk damaging your brand by being slower than there rivals. Not saying they would be. But they probably have more to lose than gain by getting involved.
Why take it to the ring and risk damaging your brand by being slower than there rivals. Not saying they would be. But they probably have more to lose than gain by getting involved.
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