Broken piston/coolant recall Ford 1.6 Ecoboost
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Hello,
Hope I have the right forum for this question:
I have a Ford Focus 1.6 Ecoboost, the type with the recall on for coolant issues (also clutch) the issue can cause fires and engine failures.
It's currently in a Ford dealers with a bust engine, first of all this was misfires, had it checked and found that the PSI on a cylinder was only 35 when it should be 160+, went into Fords who say that a piston has broken and damaged the small block £4,500 to fix that or £7,200! for a new engine.
I have a case with Ford in the hope that this can be engine failure caused by the coolant issue recall, does anyone have any experience with these engines (and this recall/recall issues) to advise if it may be related or how i might prove this to ford? (dealer isn't saying it is to do with it just that it is broken)
The car only has 42,000 miles on it, full ford service history, last service in July but when this issue started late in Sept the coolant level was near empty when it should have been fuller as it was filled in July.
Any pointers appreciated!
Hope I have the right forum for this question:
I have a Ford Focus 1.6 Ecoboost, the type with the recall on for coolant issues (also clutch) the issue can cause fires and engine failures.
It's currently in a Ford dealers with a bust engine, first of all this was misfires, had it checked and found that the PSI on a cylinder was only 35 when it should be 160+, went into Fords who say that a piston has broken and damaged the small block £4,500 to fix that or £7,200! for a new engine.
I have a case with Ford in the hope that this can be engine failure caused by the coolant issue recall, does anyone have any experience with these engines (and this recall/recall issues) to advise if it may be related or how i might prove this to ford? (dealer isn't saying it is to do with it just that it is broken)
The car only has 42,000 miles on it, full ford service history, last service in July but when this issue started late in Sept the coolant level was near empty when it should have been fuller as it was filled in July.
Any pointers appreciated!
An utterly absurd price for what could be fixed far cheaper.
if they insist on a short block, it is either because of their incompetence to repair, or yes there is an underlying problem that should be covered under warranty.
As to "broken piston"....really that could mean absolutely anything, especially if quoted by a main dealer, who probably dont even know what a piston is.
So....really...more detailed and accurate info needed. But if some water housings broke and the engine was driven on and cooked...yes that could mean a new engine.
Who is liable ? harder to say, because common sense would tell you to stop immediately when a problem is noticed, rather than driving until the engine is destroyed.
if they insist on a short block, it is either because of their incompetence to repair, or yes there is an underlying problem that should be covered under warranty.
As to "broken piston"....really that could mean absolutely anything, especially if quoted by a main dealer, who probably dont even know what a piston is.
So....really...more detailed and accurate info needed. But if some water housings broke and the engine was driven on and cooked...yes that could mean a new engine.
Who is liable ? harder to say, because common sense would tell you to stop immediately when a problem is noticed, rather than driving until the engine is destroyed.
stevieturbo said:
An utterly absurd price for what could be fixed far cheaper.
if they insist on a short block, it is either because of their incompetence to repair, or yes there is an underlying problem that should be covered under warranty.
I don't think franchises have any choice - it's the Ford advisory for issues like this to fit new/remanufactured short block. The OP would need to go to a non-franchise to get it repaired.if they insist on a short block, it is either because of their incompetence to repair, or yes there is an underlying problem that should be covered under warranty.
Ford dealer called Ford and said it's not to do with overheating/coolant recall issue, it just has to be though on a young engine like this.
I first noticed the issue one Monday morning (it drove fine on Friday) engine started badly and reved at 5-700 rpm, thought it was cold or something drove only 4 miles that day and called out AA, AA couldn't fix so I didn't drive at all since then and now it was recovered by AA to Ford dealer, so if any of it was me making it worse there was not sign.
They say a piston has broken and damaged a ball(?) in the short block, the initial issues was compression on a valve and the valve head/block I understand isn't even near the pistons on these engines for it to be kinetic damage.
From my research it has to be related to coolant recall just have to convince thinkford to tell real ford it is that! Not easy..
I first noticed the issue one Monday morning (it drove fine on Friday) engine started badly and reved at 5-700 rpm, thought it was cold or something drove only 4 miles that day and called out AA, AA couldn't fix so I didn't drive at all since then and now it was recovered by AA to Ford dealer, so if any of it was me making it worse there was not sign.
They say a piston has broken and damaged a ball(?) in the short block, the initial issues was compression on a valve and the valve head/block I understand isn't even near the pistons on these engines for it to be kinetic damage.
From my research it has to be related to coolant recall just have to convince thinkford to tell real ford it is that! Not easy..
james_focus said:
They say a piston has broken and damaged a ball(?) in the short block
A "bore" not ball. You aren't going to be able to debate this with them because you don't have any engine knowledge or even know the names of the parts of an engine. If it's out of warranty I suspect you're on your own here.james_focus said:
Ford dealer called Ford and said it's not to do with overheating/coolant recall issue, it just has to be though on a young engine like this.(
No it doesn't. s
t happens. Things break. If the nylon coolant pipe didn't burst then this is not that specific recall issue. Find an engine builder and get the block rebored and new pistons fitted. Or sell it to someone prepared to take the problem on.Mignon said:
No it doesn't. st happens. Things break. If the nylon coolant pipe didn't burst then this is not that specific recall issue. Find an engine builder and get the block rebored and new pistons fitted. Or sell it to someone prepared to take the problem on.
The Degas pipe is a 1.0 litre issue, with the 1.6 it's lack of coolant sensors so it could be overheating (to the point of fire with some people) with no warning.t happens. Things break. If the nylon coolant pipe didn't burst then this is not that specific recall issue. Find an engine builder and get the block rebored and new pistons fitted. Or sell it to someone prepared to take the problem on.227bhp said:
Well does or has your car have the coolant issue or not? You haven't said precisely what was found and done about it.
A piston broke and damaged bore/small block. I think it can be caused by stress/etc from an overheating engine, ford (the dealer) have not said that. The only way actual ford will goodwill fix the engine is if it can be to do with the coolant level/senor recall for ecoboost 1.6 litre engines.kerplunk said:
OP> I'd say you need to check whether your Focus has the crappy plastic pipe fitted that is the cause of the recalls and then find out if that's the cause of the coolant loss. You may have a case if you can show that.
Yeah I think that is a sep. 1.0 litre issue, this one is to do with overheating with no warning, it's used a tank full of coolant in 3 months which doesn't seem right, and it hasn't anywhere near that quickly before.Gassing Station | Engines & Drivetrain | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff