Chris Harris's Column -- Burst Bubble;Massive Dump;Bargains

Chris Harris's Column -- Burst Bubble;Massive Dump;Bargains

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CitySlicker

275 posts

54 months

Saturday 30th March 2019
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Drl22 said:
Ferruccio said:
1. Always cash.
Buying what you must expect to be a depreciating asset with borrowed money has never seemed sensible to me.
As it happens, they are all worth more than I paid for them currently but that’s a surprise and a bonus.
To all those who say I can make a greater return on the money borrowed than the bank charges, maybe; maybe not.

2. I’ve never sold a car.
The “always cash” posters are just so boring. Some people have better things to do with their cash. I get it, you have more cash than you do brains to invest it. Wonderful, go you!
Oxymoron

Drl22

498 posts

26 months

Saturday 30th March 2019
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CitySlicker said:
Oxymoron
In what sense is this an oxymoron?

CitySlicker

275 posts

54 months

Saturday 30th March 2019
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"More cash than brains"

In this market, don't make me remove the oxy biggrin

Drl22

498 posts

26 months

Saturday 30th March 2019
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CitySlicker said:
"More cash than brains"

In this market, don't make me remove the oxy biggrin
Not sure I agree. Cash sitting in a supercar or a bank is daft, as such, please remove the oxy if you feel differently.

Ferruccio

1,373 posts

80 months

Saturday 30th March 2019
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Drl22 said:
CitySlicker said:
"More cash than brains"

In this market, don't make me remove the oxy biggrin
Not sure I agree. Cash sitting in a supercar or a bank is daft, as such, please remove the oxy if you feel differently.
So, rather than having your cash sitting in a car,
you’d rather pay x% a year to someone else.

Sure you might make more than x% a year on your cash, but you might lose a slug of it too.

My point is that you are doubling up on the depreciation with the investment risk.
Boring?
Sensible?

Jack-flash

171 posts

33 months

Sunday 31st March 2019
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Surly the depreciation is all down to the individual asset , I just sold a Mclaren bold to say it’s definitely one of the best cars ever owned , but after blowing a fortune and only covering 3k in a year I’ve gone back to Ferrari and bought an f12, I don’t find it exciting and it’s not the best looking car , however at the current it’s easily one of the safest assets to have apart from gt2-3etc pista Speciale etc , so my point is the car bubble bursting would be down to the amount of cars being built , the ease of how finance is obtained and how every other week there is a limited run of something been launched , there’s only a limited amount of people that realistically can afford one and the search for the rarest on the road pushes the initial; brand high up the order .


Might sound like rambling but that’s my take

Cheib

19,752 posts

136 months

Sunday 31st March 2019
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Welshbeef said:
Are individuals like Schmee who (per his recent YouTube) finances all of his vehicles exposed like King Canute?
I imagine they are although I suspect it’s a company that leases/finances the cars as then he’d be able to charge all the running costs of the cars/fuel/insurance/staff salaries
to the company..company gets the YouTube revenue and he pays himself a salary/dividend.
On some cars I am sure he gets ridiculous deals from manufacturers.

The more new cars you “buy”...the more content you create. Virtuous circle as long as the music doesn’t stop.

Turbo cab

1,404 posts

193 months

Sunday 31st March 2019
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Welshbeef said:
Are individuals like Schmee who (per his recent YouTube) finances all of his vehicles exposed like King Canute?
As much as schmee has a following on YouTube and apparently this is his only job, it does not supply efficient funding to cover his supercar collection.

The hint would be in his surname, Burton and the fact his family owns that particular clothing chain.

Taffy66

4,195 posts

63 months

Sunday 31st March 2019
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Turbo cab said:
As much as schmee has a following on YouTube and apparently this is his only job, it does not supply efficient funding to cover his supercar collection.

The hint would be in his surname, Burton and the fact his family owns that particular clothing chain.
Burton's menswear is part of the Arcadia group and solely owned by Sir Philip Green..

Turbo cab

1,404 posts

193 months

Sunday 31st March 2019
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Taffy66 said:
Turbo cab said:
As much as schmee has a following on YouTube and apparently this is his only job, it does not supply efficient funding to cover his supercar collection.

The hint would be in his surname, Burton and the fact his family owns that particular clothing chain.
Burton's menswear is part of the Arcadia group and solely owned by Sir Philip Green..
Correct however, acquired in 2002. Post should have said previously owned.

It maybe wrong as I was told this a while ago however, he deffinately comes from money as YouTube would not cover the monthlys, depreciation and running of the fleet. I do rate Tim as at least he uses his collection as intended.

Taffy66

4,195 posts

63 months

Sunday 31st March 2019
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Turbo cab said:
Correct however, acquired in 2002. Post should have said previously owned.

It maybe wrong as I was told this a while ago however, he deffinately comes from money as YouTube would not cover the monthlys, depreciation and running of the fleet. I do rate Tim as at least he uses his collection as intended.
I wasn't aware that they're the same Burton.I agree with you that Tim does make a huge effort to use all his cars as intended..I don't get all this nasty comments on social media directed at him..There is a huge amount of jealously on social media unfortunately which is a sad reflection on society in general it seems.
Good luck to him i say..

franki68

7,988 posts

182 months

Sunday 31st March 2019
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Turbo cab said:
Taffy66 said:
Turbo cab said:
As much as schmee has a following on YouTube and apparently this is his only job, it does not supply efficient funding to cover his supercar collection.

The hint would be in his surname, Burton and the fact his family owns that particular clothing chain.
Burton's menswear is part of the Arcadia group and solely owned by Sir Philip Green..
Correct however, acquired in 2002. Post should have said previously owned.

It maybe wrong as I was told this a while ago however, he deffinately comes from money as YouTube would not cover the monthlys, depreciation and running of the fleet. I do rate Tim as at least he uses his collection as intended.
He has a massive subscribe base and his advertisers are the cream of you tube advertisers ,so they pay the most to advertise .
I think he could easily fund his vehicles through his youtube revenue .

Turbo cab

1,404 posts

193 months

Sunday 31st March 2019
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franki68 said:
Turbo cab said:
Taffy66 said:
Turbo cab said:
As much as schmee has a following on YouTube and apparently this is his only job, it does not supply efficient funding to cover his supercar collection.

The hint would be in his surname, Burton and the fact his family owns that particular clothing chain.
Burton's menswear is part of the Arcadia group and solely owned by Sir Philip Green..
Correct however, acquired in 2002. Post should have said previously owned.

It maybe wrong as I was told this a while ago however, he deffinately comes from money as YouTube would not cover the monthlys, depreciation and running of the fleet. I do rate Tim as at least he uses his collection as intended.
He has a massive subscribe base and his advertisers are the cream of you tube advertisers ,so they pay the most to advertise .
I think he could easily fund his vehicles through his youtube revenue .
Personally I'm not convinced. Tim has around 1.5M subscribers which if what you read on the internet is to be believed regarding earnings, is not enough to run his fleet.

As mentioned earlier, I rate him as he clocks up serious miles in his cars (which means he needs to earn even more to cover the huge depreciation by doing so) and he's also probably one of the only car YouTubers I will actually watch as you can tell he is a bonified petrol head and genuine nice guy.



21ATS

237 posts

33 months

Sunday 31st March 2019
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Numbers of subscribers is largely irrelevant. It's views that matter to YT and on which advertising revenue income is calculated.

Endorsements and tie ups are where the money comes from as a result of the YT exposure. There will be multiple income streams generated by the shmee150 channel - the ad revenue from YT probably only amounting to 30% or so of gross annual turnover.



TobyTR

932 posts

107 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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Jack-flash said:
Surly the depreciation is all down to the individual asset , I just sold a Mclaren bold to say it’s definitely one of the best cars ever owned , but after blowing a fortune and only covering 3k in a year I’ve gone back to Ferrari and bought an f12, I don’t find it exciting and it’s not the best looking car , however at the current it’s easily one of the safest assets to have apart from gt2-3etc pista Speciale etc , so my point is the car bubble bursting would be down to the amount of cars being built , the ease of how finance is obtained and how every other week there is a limited run of something been launched , there’s only a limited amount of people that realistically can afford one and the search for the rarest on the road pushes the initial; brand high up the order .


Might sound like rambling but that’s my take
F12 very much exciting and there's plenty of worse looking cars out there... would you like to swap? wink

Welshbeef

42,872 posts

159 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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How about you tubers like Living life fast lovely cars but again (I assume) the model requires heavy advert revenue to support the funding of exotic cars.

monthefish

19,665 posts

192 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2019
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21ATS said:
Numbers of subscribers is largely irrelevant. It's views that matter to YT and on which advertising revenue income is calculated.
...and the higher the number of subscribers, the higher the likely number of views their videos will have.

markcoznottz

6,132 posts

185 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2019
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Turbo cab said:
Welshbeef said:
Are individuals like Schmee who (per his recent YouTube) finances all of his vehicles exposed like King Canute?
As much as schmee has a following on YouTube and apparently this is his only job, it does not supply efficient funding to cover his supercar collection.

The hint would be in his surname, Burton and the fact his family owns that particular clothing chain.
Mate don't engage with Welshbeef, hes an annoying troll. Tim burtons family connection, try a pack of Maryland cookies.

Turbo cab

1,404 posts

193 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2019
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markcoznottz said:
Turbo cab said:
Welshbeef said:
Are individuals like Schmee who (per his recent YouTube) finances all of his vehicles exposed like King Canute?
As much as schmee has a following on YouTube and apparently this is his only job, it does not supply efficient funding to cover his supercar collection.

The hint would be in his surname, Burton and the fact his family owns that particular clothing chain.
Mate don't engage with Welshbeef, hes an annoying troll. Tim burtons family connection, try a pack of Maryland cookies.
Thanks for the info, spose it's best not to believe everything you hear!

Knew that YT wasn't responsible but again credit where it's due, at least he grafts and tries to make a living from his passion instead of being a lazy trust fund bum.

21ATS

237 posts

33 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2019
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markcoznottz said:
Mate don't engage with Welshbeef, hes an annoying troll. Tim burtons family connection, try a pack of Maryland cookies.
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