Is a McLaren 570s A Supercar?
Discussion
how is that any different to those prats from the UAE hooning around Knightsbridge?
Most of them are in £250k+ cars that either they rent or have had bought over for a week. Very few are modified except for wraps. And it's not something Ahmed sits on his drive at his 25million$ mansion in Abu Dhabi doing himself. Tasteless to us I know but hardly the same as a £50k R8 with a crappy bodykit
It's a real thing. As I discovered a couple of years ago when my wife was after one. Take a drive round Birmingham and you'll be surprised where you find them parked. Hats off to them that they aspire to own one and I don't give a damm what type of house someone has BUT my point is this does not help quantify it as a supercar. Most of them are in £250k+ cars that either they rent or have had bought over for a week. Very few are modified except for wraps. And it's not something Ahmed sits on his drive at his 25million$ mansion in Abu Dhabi doing himself. Tasteless to us I know but hardly the same as a £50k R8 with a crappy bodykit
Pioneer said:
but when little Jimmy next door, living with his mum and dad just bought a £45k V10 on some extortionate finance rate and spends the weekends sticking on carbon and leds while it's parked next to his dad's focus, it dilutes the whole 'supercar' status
is that really a thing... or just in your mind?Listen, I have nothing against the R8. Great car but it's just too accessible to the average guy. There's something about the R8 (at that price point) that just screams out to young wannabee kn*bs. And unfortunately that reflects on the model as a whole
What on Earth are you talking about. Birmingham is well known for dodgy characters doing day rentals of supercars of every brand and type. What has that got to do with anything!?
360 Ferarris were £30k 10 years ago they were not considered ‘not a supercar’ then. The running costs of an R8, kept in good fettle, are not cheap
360 Ferarris were £30k 10 years ago they were not considered ‘not a supercar’ then. The running costs of an R8, kept in good fettle, are not cheap
Edited by jakesmith on Sunday 19th May 11:03
Back to the original question asked...
The McLaren F1 was and still is right up there as a supercar by anyones definition.
The 570 figures from 0-60, 0-100, 0-124 are very, very close to the F1, it has the show off doors ( which actually are very practical ) looks like a spaceship and it does over 200mph.
People stop in the street and stare when it goes past...people film it and take pictures of it if parked and god forbid you go to fill it up at a petrol station...
I'm not actually sure why the question has to be asked.
What other box does it have to tick?
The McLaren F1 was and still is right up there as a supercar by anyones definition.
The 570 figures from 0-60, 0-100, 0-124 are very, very close to the F1, it has the show off doors ( which actually are very practical ) looks like a spaceship and it does over 200mph.
People stop in the street and stare when it goes past...people film it and take pictures of it if parked and god forbid you go to fill it up at a petrol station...
I'm not actually sure why the question has to be asked.
What other box does it have to tick?
jakesmith said:
What on Earth are you talking about. Birmingham is well known for dodgy characters doing day rentals of supercars of every brand and type. What has that got to do with anything!?
360 Ferarris were £30k 10 years ago they were not considered ‘not a supercar’ then. The running costs of an R8, kept in good fettle, are not cheap
We were going to private sellers homes to BUY one, not rent. 360 Ferarris were £30k 10 years ago they were not considered ‘not a supercar’ then. The running costs of an R8, kept in good fettle, are not cheap
Edited by jakesmith on Sunday 19th May 11:03
Pioneer said:
It's a real thing. As I discovered a couple of years ago when my wife was after one. Take a drive round Birmingham and you'll be surprised where you find them parked. Hats off to them that they aspire to own one and I don't give a damm what type of house someone has BUT my point is this does not help quantify it as a supercar.
Listen, I have nothing against the R8. Great car but it's just too accessible to the average guy. There's something about the R8 (at that price point) that just screams out to young wannabee kn*bs. And unfortunately that reflects on the model as a whole
this is just nonsense! so a cars now not a supercar because of where it might be parked? or because its costs a certain price? (i remember 355s being £35k) or because its desirable to a (fabricated?) demographic of people you don't like? i.e. "young wannabee kn*bs" whatever that means? surely a "wannabee" isn't someone thats err.. already driving round in a supercar? i mean sticking M3 badges on a 320d yes, but driving a 200mph 500+bhp V10 makes you a wannabe Listen, I have nothing against the R8. Great car but it's just too accessible to the average guy. There's something about the R8 (at that price point) that just screams out to young wannabee kn*bs. And unfortunately that reflects on the model as a whole
355spiderguy said:
Back to the original question asked...
The McLaren F1 was and still is right up there as a supercar by anyones definition.
The 570 figures from 0-60, 0-100, 0-124 are very, very close to the F1, it has the show off doors ( which actually are very practical ) looks like a spaceship and it does over 200mph.
People stop in the street and stare when it goes past...people film it and take pictures of it if parked and god forbid you go to fill it up at a petrol station...
I'm not actually sure why the question has to be asked.
What other box does it have to tick?
'If you have to ask' is generally thought of as the answer!The McLaren F1 was and still is right up there as a supercar by anyones definition.
The 570 figures from 0-60, 0-100, 0-124 are very, very close to the F1, it has the show off doors ( which actually are very practical ) looks like a spaceship and it does over 200mph.
People stop in the street and stare when it goes past...people film it and take pictures of it if parked and god forbid you go to fill it up at a petrol station...
I'm not actually sure why the question has to be asked.
What other box does it have to tick?
But it doesn't really matter. They'll never be a definitive answer as it's such a personal/emotive thing. Someone earning £50k a year may consider it one. Someone who has £100mil in the bank and can buy a Koenigsegg, Bugati etc without blinking an eye probably wouldn't. Personally I'd say the 650, 675, 720 etc are the supercars as well as the F1 obviously. I've yet to own what I'd consider a supercar
Pioneer said:
We were going to private sellers homes to BUY one, not rent.
Then look at the picture on the advert and don’t go to see it if it is modified and not to your taste it’s not difficultOr go to a dealer if you don’t like going to peoples houses to buy a car
Or put the postcode into google maps and don’t go there if the address is somewhere you consider ‘below’ you
What you’re saying is just really odd. Look on autotrader at the r8’s For sale. You’ll see a few cheaper cars, maybe 3-4 cars with wrapped blades or v10 wheels on a v8 or a non standard colour. Then after that they’ll be standard cars well maintained owned by respectable people who don’t live with their parents
Look at the cheapest example of any car and you’ll see the same, Ferarri it would be leggy LHD ones as the bottom markers of the market.
355spiderguy said:
Back to the original question asked...
The McLaren F1 was and still is right up there as a supercar by anyones definition.
The 570 figures from 0-60, 0-100, 0-124 are very, very close to the F1, it has the show off doors ( which actually are very practical ) looks like a spaceship and it does over 200mph.
People stop in the street and stare when it goes past...people film it and take pictures of it if parked and god forbid you go to fill it up at a petrol station...
I'm not actually sure why the question has to be asked.
What other box does it have to tick?
The box of the imaginary billionaires I guess from people who have no idea what they are talking about. I know some seriously wealthy people and the supposition by people on here of how they might think about things is just ignorance. The McLaren F1 was and still is right up there as a supercar by anyones definition.
The 570 figures from 0-60, 0-100, 0-124 are very, very close to the F1, it has the show off doors ( which actually are very practical ) looks like a spaceship and it does over 200mph.
People stop in the street and stare when it goes past...people film it and take pictures of it if parked and god forbid you go to fill it up at a petrol station...
I'm not actually sure why the question has to be asked.
What other box does it have to tick?
570s a ‘sports car’ like a MX5 or Elise? Quite mad.
355spiderguy said:
Back to the original question asked...
The McLaren F1 was and still is right up there as a supercar by anyones definition.
The 570 figures from 0-60, 0-100, 0-124 are very, very close to the F1, it has the show off doors ( which actually are very practical ) looks like a spaceship and it does over 200mph.
:
You are comparing contemporary performance car figures with old supercar performance figures which essentially is misleading.The McLaren F1 was and still is right up there as a supercar by anyones definition.
The 570 figures from 0-60, 0-100, 0-124 are very, very close to the F1, it has the show off doors ( which actually are very practical ) looks like a spaceship and it does over 200mph.
:
I’ve driven the 570S, nearly bought one. It’s supercar fast, looks like a supercar, drinks like a supercar, has supercar doors, is made by the maker of hypercars, supercars and racing cars, it turns heads wherever it goes, people stop to have photos taken with it, and, wimmin love it.
It’s a supercar. End of.
It’s a supercar. End of.
mickpsu said:
I’ve driven the 570S, nearly bought one. It’s supercar fast, looks like a supercar, drinks like a supercar, has supercar doors, is made by the maker of hypercars, supercars and racing cars, it turns heads wherever it goes, people stop to have photos taken with it, and, wimmin love it.
It’s a supercar. End of.
I think this is the ultimate answer. 99%+ of the population would consider it an honour to own one and drool over the prospect. I work in central London and I see more Ferrari’s and Lambos than Maccas, so exclusivity is there from the start.....and then you factor in capability. Epic car, haven’t driven one but lust after one (and can afford one), so for me at least it is one.It’s a supercar. End of.
johnwilliams77 said:
In your opinion
Isn’t it a part of their sports series?
Working in Marketing for 15 years it suspiciously looks to me as though they have simply repackaged a product to address a slightly lower price segment. It doesn’t look any different to their much more expensive cars and the performance is substantially ahead of a 458. The only people who think this isn’t a supercar are the same bunch as R8 haters, those who could either never dream of owning one, or those who are jaded by buying a much more expensive car that turns out isn’t really any better or more desirable...Isn’t it a part of their sports series?
jakesmith said:
0-60, 0-100, 0-160 mph
458: 3.3, 6.7, 33.2
570s: 3.1, 6.1, 26(!)
Mclarren with supercar looks and F1 pedigree... It’s a supercar
Your figures are way off!458: 3.3, 6.7, 33.2
570s: 3.1, 6.1, 26(!)
Mclarren with supercar looks and F1 pedigree... It’s a supercar
Also the 458 is approaching 10 years old and as you know is normally aspirated. The 488 v 570 S is a more realistic comparison.
These are the respective figures in seconds 0 to 60, 0 to 100, 0 to 160, standing quarter mile.
488 2.95 5.95 15.5 10.3
570S 3.0 6.0 16.7 10.5
458 3.0 6.2 16.5 10.8
av185 said:
jakesmith said:
0-60, 0-100, 0-160 mph
458: 3.3, 6.7, 33.2
570s: 3.1, 6.1, 26(!)
Mclarren with supercar looks and F1 pedigree... It’s a supercar
Your figures are way off!458: 3.3, 6.7, 33.2
570s: 3.1, 6.1, 26(!)
Mclarren with supercar looks and F1 pedigree... It’s a supercar
Also the 458 is approaching 10 years old and as you know is normally aspirated. The 488 v 570 S is a more realistic comparison.
These are the respective figures in seconds 0 to 60, 0 to 100, 0 to 160, standing quarter mile.
488 2.95 5.95 15.5 10.3
570S 3.0 6.0 16.7 10.5
458 3.0 6.2 16.5 10.8
http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel2979-5721.htm
Presumably 458 is a supercar so a mclarren that is faster, is also a supercar
Why are you introducing engine aspiration as a factor now you silly duck!
It’s funny how your criterion for supercardom meets your fleet is one of your criteria ‘any vehicle registered at my house’
If you had a reliant robin for pissing about in, you’d find a way of that being a supercar too ‘anything with 3 wheels and a plastic body in yellow also qualifies, along with anything registered at my address’
Gassing Station | Supercar General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff