Collecting Cars auction results

Collecting Cars auction results

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Cheib

23,112 posts

174 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Plenty of auctions get deals done post event and don’t differentiate.

will_

6,027 posts

202 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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Pro Bono said:
bigmowley said:
will_ said:
webstercivet said:
Cheib said:
Did anyone see what the 73 RS got bid to ?
£462,500 from memory. Not on the Sold page - does that mean didn’t reach reserve?
It got to £463,000 and doesn't appear to have sold.
Now marked as sold at £475K. Presumably an after auction haggle.
I don't think CC should be showing a sale price of £475k if it was a post-auction deal. It's seriously misleading, as the casual viewer would assume that the car had been sold at auction, thereby making CC auctions seem more successful than they actually are.
What difference does that make? The car through CC having been marketed by CC.

jtremlett

1,369 posts

221 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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will_ said:
Pro Bono said:
bigmowley said:
will_ said:
webstercivet said:
Cheib said:
Did anyone see what the 73 RS got bid to ?
£462,500 from memory. Not on the Sold page - does that mean didn’t reach reserve?
It got to £463,000 and doesn't appear to have sold.
Now marked as sold at £475K. Presumably an after auction haggle.
I don't think CC should be showing a sale price of £475k if it was a post-auction deal. It's seriously misleading, as the casual viewer would assume that the car had been sold at auction, thereby making CC auctions seem more successful than they actually are.
What difference does that make? The car through CC having been marketed by CC.
Precisely. The deal has been done as a result of the auction.

Taffy66

5,964 posts

101 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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jtremlett said:
recisely. The deal has been done as a result of the auction.
This is perfectly standard practice which all auction houses employ and nothing unethical about it.

Paft Dunk

296 posts

257 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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Was interested in a car finishing tonight, and I note that the seller hasn’t answered a single question that potential bidders asked. Find the whole thing very odd.

Perhaps they just see its hit the reserve, so why bother?!

HIS LM

1,279 posts

258 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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Not suspicious at all, possibly hit reserve or CBA, some of the questions are from lazy fools who can't be bothered to read the script.
I had some tw@t ask "What's your lowest price save me wasting time bidding"

rat rod

4,997 posts

64 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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Paft Dunk said:
Was interested in a car finishing tonight, and I note that the seller hasn’t answered a single question that potential bidders asked. Find the whole thing very odd.

Perhaps they just see its hit the reserve, so why bother?!
The idea of entering a car in a auction is so you don't have to get involved and let the auction do the work,

Also if the owner states something in print that is misleading either on purpose or innocently could have consequences

for them after the auction if the buyer is unhappy with his or her purchase

so i suppose the less said the better and as you say if it's made the reserve why bother and complicate things but do agree

it does look like there's something to hide

RATATTAK

10,593 posts

188 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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rat rod said:
Paft Dunk said:
Was interested in a car finishing tonight, and I note that the seller hasn’t answered a single question that potential bidders asked. Find the whole thing very odd.

Perhaps they just see its hit the reserve, so why bother?!
The idea of entering a car in a auction is so you don't have to get involved and let the auction do the work,

Also if the owner states something in print that is misleading either on purpose or innocently could have consequences

for them after the auction if the buyer is unhappy with his or her purchase

so i suppose the less said the better and as you say if it's made the reserve why bother and complicate things but do agree

it does look like there's something to hide
and it keeps more people interested ... I assume PD was referring to the Cayman and the questions were answered before thee hammer went down.

RATATTAK

10,593 posts

188 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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I see 2manycars bought some stuff tonight ... is it the same guy - Pete ?

belfry

930 posts

181 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Paft Dunk said:
Was interested in a car finishing tonight, and I note that the seller hasn’t answered a single question that potential bidders asked. Find the whole thing very odd.

Perhaps they just see its hit the reserve, so why bother?!
I've been interested in the DB9 with the engine noise. A couple of days ago I asked CC to see if the vendor is willing to provide some information/evidence from their Aston specialist about the source of the engine noise (advert said it's probably just tappets). Surely the vendor might have been interested in the cause?I know that I would be straight on to the AM specialist if my V12 started to make strange noises eek

The Bamford Rose recent video of DB9 engine issues suggests £14-20k for an engine rebuild following the 'dreaded DB9 ticking'. This is too big a risk for me. But I haven't heard back from CC regarding my request to the seller.

kith

562 posts

244 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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Interesting to and fro on the comments on the 458 Italia going through with a trade seller at the moment.

ferrisbueller

29,260 posts

226 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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Just wondering how much due diligence is done on cars/sellers before they are accepted and listed on the website.

webstercivet

457 posts

73 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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Very little - HPI check and MOT check. Why would they do any more? They simply provide a platform, the actual sale is a matter for the buyer and seller. "Any dispute with respect to the sale of any Auction Lot shall be resolved between the Buyer and Seller and without the participation of Collecting Cars."

birdcage

2,838 posts

204 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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kith said:
Interesting to and fro on the comments on the 458 Italia going through with a trade seller at the moment.
I saw that, he sounds like he's just about keeping his temper in check. Not someone I would buy a Ferrari from he sounds pretty crazy

webstercivet

457 posts

73 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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birdcage said:
I saw that, he sounds like he's just about keeping his temper in check. Not someone I would buy a Ferrari from he sounds pretty crazy
Probably doesn't get as much scrutiny on the £1-10k cars that Winchester Cars normally sells.

Drclarke

1,185 posts

172 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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ferrisbueller said:
Just wondering how much due diligence is done on cars/sellers before they are accepted and listed on the website.
It appears VERY little for your £6000!

That’s a hell of a lot of money for sweet manna all !!

ferrisbueller

29,260 posts

226 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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webstercivet said:
Very little - HPI check and MOT check. Why would they do any more? They simply provide a platform, the actual sale is a matter for the buyer and seller. "Any dispute with respect to the sale of any Auction Lot shall be resolved between the Buyer and Seller and without the participation of Collecting Cars."
No doubt the legals are all tied down, but if I, for example, bought a damaged/written-off car, which wasn't declared in the description, which is written by CC, then I'd be rather pissed off.

ferrisbueller

29,260 posts

226 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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webstercivet said:
birdcage said:
I saw that, he sounds like he's just about keeping his temper in check. Not someone I would buy a Ferrari from he sounds pretty crazy
Probably doesn't get as much scrutiny on the £1-10k cars that Winchester Cars normally sells.
That car has apparently been a competition prize twice this year? With an apparent change of plate and appearance between times.

birdcage

2,838 posts

204 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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That car looks as bent as a nine bob note

HIS LM

1,279 posts

258 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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Anyone know what the Bentley GTC was bid up to before it went unsold
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