SVJ vs SV Head scramble
Discussion
Again, invaluable owner thoughts giving proper insight. Thank you
Think I’m clearer now and can understand how the market may hold preference towards the SV.
Lower build so rarer. Zilch difference in speed. Naff all difference in handling. Looks are subjective but the crowd seem to prefer the SV’s purer shape. Personally, I’m in the SVJ camp on this. Love a bit of spoiler spoiler
Maybe if the SVJ is the last hairy, clean lunged V12 its place In history is cemented. If the rumours are true re unexpectedly ‘one more last Aventador’ - not sure where it will sit ??
Think I’m clearer now and can understand how the market may hold preference towards the SV.
Lower build so rarer. Zilch difference in speed. Naff all difference in handling. Looks are subjective but the crowd seem to prefer the SV’s purer shape. Personally, I’m in the SVJ camp on this. Love a bit of spoiler spoiler
Maybe if the SVJ is the last hairy, clean lunged V12 its place In history is cemented. If the rumours are true re unexpectedly ‘one more last Aventador’ - not sure where it will sit ??
Edited by jonny finance on Monday 28th September 21:30
jonny finance said:
Again, invaluable owner thoughts giving proper insight. Thank you
Think I’m clearer now and can understand how the market may hold preference towards the SV.
Lower build so rarer. Zilch difference in speed. Naff all difference in handling. Looks are subjective but the crowd seem to prefer the SV’s purer shape. Personally, I’m in the SVJ camp on this. Love a bit of spoiler spoiler
Maybe if the SVJ is the last hairy, clean lunged V12 its place In history is cemented. If the rumours are true re unexpectedly ‘one more last Aventador’ - not sure where it will sit ??
As you say as it’s a special edition, and that it’s going to go down in history as being the last production V12 from Lamborghini then long term residuals will be pretty good I’d have thought but your talking 10+years until they start creeping back up. I’d say the SV and the SVJ will be pretty similarly priced and follow the same curve.Think I’m clearer now and can understand how the market may hold preference towards the SV.
Lower build so rarer. Zilch difference in speed. Naff all difference in handling. Looks are subjective but the crowd seem to prefer the SV’s purer shape. Personally, I’m in the SVJ camp on this. Love a bit of spoiler spoiler
Maybe if the SVJ is the last hairy, clean lunged V12 its place In history is cemented. If the rumours are true re unexpectedly ‘one more last Aventador’ - not sure where it will sit ??
Edited by jonny finance on Monday 28th September 21:30
MDL111 said:
I have not driven the ISR transmission but if it is similar to a Ferrari single clutch then I prefer it to a double clutch box - feels closer to driving a manual to me
This. Current sv owner and previous csl and r8 rtronic owner. But in auto they're all dire. But who drives them in auto??
VonSenger said:
MDL111 said:
I have not driven the ISR transmission but if it is similar to a Ferrari single clutch then I prefer it to a double clutch box - feels closer to driving a manual to me
This. Current sv owner and previous csl and r8 rtronic owner. But in auto they're all dire. But who drives them in auto??
But aren’t you missing the fundamental point that it is the marginal buyer that determines the price/value in any car.
You may not ever drive these cars in Auto , but I suspect that the modern day supercar purchaser on the margin now expects a super clean gear change.
And that is what will ultimately determine it’s value.
You may not ever drive these cars in Auto , but I suspect that the modern day supercar purchaser on the margin now expects a super clean gear change.
And that is what will ultimately determine it’s value.
OldAndTired said:
But aren’t you missing the fundamental point that it is the marginal buyer that determines the price/value in any car.
You may not ever drive these cars in Auto , but I suspect that the modern day supercar purchaser on the margin now expects a super clean gear change.
And that is what will ultimately determine it’s value.
Generally the cars that have massively appreciated are the compromised ones that are hard work, but get what you are saying about the new and newish cars being bought. You may not ever drive these cars in Auto , but I suspect that the modern day supercar purchaser on the margin now expects a super clean gear change.
And that is what will ultimately determine it’s value.
Personally i wouldn't want any supercar that a housewife could happily jump in tootle around town without being nervous of its behaviour, but there obviously is a market for that.
topjay said:
OldAndTired said:
But aren’t you missing the fundamental point that it is the marginal buyer that determines the price/value in any car.
You may not ever drive these cars in Auto , but I suspect that the modern day supercar purchaser on the margin now expects a super clean gear change.
And that is what will ultimately determine it’s value.
Generally the cars that have massively appreciated are the compromised ones that are hard work, but get what you are saying about the new and newish cars being bought. You may not ever drive these cars in Auto , but I suspect that the modern day supercar purchaser on the margin now expects a super clean gear change.
And that is what will ultimately determine it’s value.
Personally i wouldn't want any supercar that a housewife could happily jump in tootle around town without being nervous of its behaviour, but there obviously is a market for that.
The hard work point is absolutely true - a Miura is a bit like driving a van.
SVJBalboni said:
Most of the SVJ production is done, the only cars on the production line are the cars that got delayed due to COVID, the Xago edition paint special and heavily spec'd AdP SVJ63's. I did hear the factory was going to be retooled for the replacement next month but with COVID delays and delay of the A replacement I don't think that's happening.
Interesting you say that. My not-so-local Lamborghini dealer said they could still order a SVJ to my spec.OldAndTired said:
But aren’t you missing the fundamental point that it is the marginal buyer that determines the price/value in any car.
You may not ever drive these cars in Auto , but I suspect that the modern day supercar purchaser on the margin now expects a super clean gear change.
And that is what will ultimately determine it’s value.
I think you are probably correct with regards to purchasers of newish cars. I am not sure that will still hold once they are a bit older though - then I suspect small foibles might actually be seen as character / more fun - esp once the cars are old tech anyway, so ultimate performance is no longer that relevant You may not ever drive these cars in Auto , but I suspect that the modern day supercar purchaser on the margin now expects a super clean gear change.
And that is what will ultimately determine it’s value.
Think there maybe one last current Venti Incarnation - but not SV/SVJ hard core
Broken record but I couldn’t work out why most of the SVJ road testers kept mentioning the cars crazy width. Ok an Aventador isn’t small but once on the move it’s not a concern. More so if your used to peddling a van or commercial stuff.
Why the recent whinging ?? Cause it’s dam near 70mm wider again. That’s nuts - in a nutty good way !!
Broken record but I couldn’t work out why most of the SVJ road testers kept mentioning the cars crazy width. Ok an Aventador isn’t small but once on the move it’s not a concern. More so if your used to peddling a van or commercial stuff.
Why the recent whinging ?? Cause it’s dam near 70mm wider again. That’s nuts - in a nutty good way !!
The Moose said:
Interesting you say that. My not-so-local Lamborghini dealer said they could still order a SVJ to my spec.
It wouldn't surprise me if there's allocation still available. COVID, Domenicali exiting and rumours that VW might sell Lamborghini has put the replacement on hold for the foreseeable future. Well, reading some of the previous posts, I feel sorry for some of the current SVJ owners who may of been led up the garden path on believing it was a limited status Lambo. Mind, saying that, apparently total U.K. SVJ’s is circa 130 ish. - that’s very small volume in anyone’s book
Besides, raving depreciation isn’t all bad news. It gives us mere mortals hope.
One day one day!
Besides, raving depreciation isn’t all bad news. It gives us mere mortals hope.
One day one day!
Edited by jonny finance on Thursday 1st October 23:21
Personally seen 2 sitting in tunbridge wells (both roadsters) 1 in chelmsford, 1 in Hatfield and many many for sale (coupes) also seen a few at meets etc.
Not really a rare car, and I believe most were nearly 400k new, most roadsters over that!
The yellow coupe at tom hartley has been there a while at only 315k and has not been snapped up.
There is certainly no massive demand for SVJ 's
Not really a rare car, and I believe most were nearly 400k new, most roadsters over that!
The yellow coupe at tom hartley has been there a while at only 315k and has not been snapped up.
There is certainly no massive demand for SVJ 's
lambo666 said:
Personally seen 2 sitting in tunbridge wells (both roadsters) 1 in chelmsford, 1 in Hatfield and many many for sale (coupes) also seen a few at meets etc.
Not really a rare car, and I believe most were nearly 400k new, most roadsters over that!
The yellow coupe at tom hartley has been there a while at only 315k and has not been snapped up.
There is certainly no massive demand for SVJ 's
I don’t like the front end styling - it’s too busy and as if trying too hardNot really a rare car, and I believe most were nearly 400k new, most roadsters over that!
The yellow coupe at tom hartley has been there a while at only 315k and has not been snapped up.
There is certainly no massive demand for SVJ 's
There's no demand for the SVJ, not just in the UK but Worldwide.They built too many cars, the price point was too high and it left a lot of loyal customers pissed who are dumping cars which is driving the prices down.
Future SVJ prices will depend on the A replacement. If they go hybrid or replace the V12 this could drive prices up for the SV and SVJ. The V12 will be replaced at some point but for now prices will continue to decline.
Future SVJ prices will depend on the A replacement. If they go hybrid or replace the V12 this could drive prices up for the SV and SVJ. The V12 will be replaced at some point but for now prices will continue to decline.
Juber said:
I have no experience on driving either however if i was ever in the market for an Aventador, it would be the SV i would want.
The SVJ's dont seem so special seeing there are lots around and the same seems to be the case with the new Huracan STO.
I strongly suspect Huracan STO model will rise and do overs for a while yet. The SVJ's dont seem so special seeing there are lots around and the same seems to be the case with the new Huracan STO.
SVJ prices haven't held up so badly since this thread first started seeming to be now on the up having dipped after launch. Be an interesting one to watch.
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