RE: Can I borrow a Veyron again, please?

[Chris71]

One of the best reviews I've read in ages.

Any chance theres someone on PH with a Veyron? Maybe we could open 64 different threads entitled "Jim, is this the wing mirror of your Veyron?"

[Lutz]

So it drives well....For a million Euro, I would have expected no less....But somebody already mentioned it: what good does the best ever ever ever GT, if you dont dare to drive it....and there is no place to drive it...and yes, it looks a bit bland...
Naaaah, I would not take it if soemone put it in my driveway ;-)

[Andy Mac]

Lutz said:

So it drives well....For a million Euro, I would have expected no less....But somebody already mentioned it: what good does the best ever ever ever GT, if you dont dare to drive it....and there is no place to drive it...and yes, it looks a bit bland...
Naaaah, I would not take it if soemone put it in my driveway ;-)

If you can afford a Veryon, money should not be a problem! Nowhere to drive it? Same goes for every other sportscar then. TVR Speed twelve, Macca F1, etc...

[graeme36s]

Lutz said:

So it drives well....For a million Euro, I would have expected no less....But somebody already mentioned it: what good does the best ever ever ever GT, if you dont dare to drive it....and there is no place to drive it...and yes, it looks a bit bland...
Naaaah, I would not take it if soemone put it in my driveway ;-)

1.1 million euro plus v.a.t to be exact. There aren't many cars out there now that you can't get a driving ban in for 100mph plus on the motorway. However because the veyron is rather nippy if you chose a little spot of motorway that you knew the BIB never sit there then you can hit the double t with ease and back to 70mph an no one is non the wiser. Most cars take far to long to wind up and thats the difference.
One of the factories party tricks is that as you turn of the main road into the entrance you have about 400 metres to the gate house. The test driver says stop here. He then says nail it and brake at the gate house. What just stomp on the throttle. Yep he says, so I oblige. You have just hit 125mph and stopped in 400 metres, F**k*ng Awesome are the only two words to describe it.

[PiB]

So it corners?

I may let it into my dream garage

[JuniorD]

I wonder sometimes if car reviews are based not on the car or the experience but on what side the author exited their bed that morning? Referring to the original test, the line "I wasn’t as gripped by it as I should have been" sums it up. Why should he have been predisposed to a gripping and why wasn't he? Perhaps some prejudice was at play, or some other emotional barrier? I know they are only human but the article just goes go to show how fickle and whimsical motoring journalists can be given that an opinion on a car can shift so seismically from "feeling curiously devoid of emotion or personality" to having soul, emotion, and much personality in this case. At least he was able to admit a change of heart, albeit with blame attached to the roads.

[dom180]

Neat road featured in the Autocar DVD - Vosges perhaps?

[TJS1968]

Great story, well written just not sure all the trumpet blowing's needed at the end.

[mr bridger]

Andy Mac said:

In my mind, the Veryon has been built in the same vein as the macca F1. A sort of "If you could build a car, and money was no option, what would you build", and that, to me is what they did. It takes the pinnacle so much further. Imagine having a Veryon, AND a Macca f1 in your garage! Truly 2 of THE most awe inspiring pieces of engineering.

agreed, Mr B.

[Miguel]

Andy Mac said:

In my mind, the Veryon has been built in the same vein as the macca F1. A sort of "If you could build a car, and money was no option, what would you build", and that, to me is what they did. It takes the pinnacle so much further. Imagine having a Veryon, AND a Macca f1 in your garage! Truly 2 of THE most awe inspiring pieces of engineering.

No doubt that those two are incredible cars and have insane power to weight ratios and matching prices, but IMHO there the similarities end. The Bugatti and McLaren were engineered and built for completely different purposes. The Bugatti was intended to be an extremely refined 250 mph car. It uses all the electronic nannies its engineers could come up with in order to keep the car reasonably safe and easy to drive while doing so.

The goal for the McLaren wasn't a specific top speed; it was much more subjective. Gordon Murray's vision for the McLaren F1 was that it be a completely pure driving experience. Thus, it has no electronic aids, nor does it have power assistance for the brakes or steering and is very light. If more power was wanted, they could've ordered a turbocharged engine from BMW, but Gordon Murray wanted crisp and immediate throttle response and a linear power delivery. Its extreme price tag and performance makes the car very misunderstood, as it is very different from most road cars of similar power. They're both fantastic achievements but couldn't be more different.

Miguel

Edited by Miguel on Wednesday 4th July 06:05

Edited by Miguel on Sunday 8th July 11:05

[Miguel]

TJS1968 said:

Great story, well written just not sure all the trumpet blowing's needed at the end.

I initially thought the same thing, but after looking at it a second time, doesn't it seem like it's PH who is asking for the writer's credentials, saying that from now on it wants that from all their writers?

Miguel

[markbe]

mr bridger said:

Andy Mac said:

In my mind, the Veryon has been built in the same vein as the macca F1. A sort of "If you could build a car, and money was no option, what would you build", and that, to me is what they did. It takes the pinnacle so much further. Imagine having a Veryon, AND a Macca f1 in your garage! Truly 2 of THE most awe inspiring pieces of engineering.

agreed, Mr B.

Good morning Mr B, we would be most appreciative if you would enlighten us
with your experiences of your new steed.

Mark.

[baggiebird]

Great story....but the Veyron is simply too fast for public roads

[AngryS3Owner]

baggiebird said:

Great story....but the Veyron is simply too fast for public roads

Why?

[baggiebird]

AngryS3Owner said:

baggiebird said:

Great story....but the Veyron is simply too fast for public roads

Why?

I think a line has to be drawn and this crosses it.

[magic_marker]

deevlash said:

val said:

Yeah right...

Put a proper driver in GT3 and it will spank this journo-boy so hard he'll cry for his mommy.

2 tonne car cant be a sports car by the laws of physics.

Proper driver? That journo-boy has tested for the Jag F1 team I think you'll find and was only around 5 seconds a lap off the pace of the regular drivers, Pizzonia and Webber.

Agreed.

Damned amateurs, always think they know what talking about ..

[AngryS3Owner]

baggiebird said:

AngryS3Owner said:

baggiebird said:

Great story....but the Veyron is simply too fast for public roads

Why?

I think a line has to be drawn and this crosses it.

Oh missed that back in July... why does a line need to be drawn at all? We still have laws in place to stop someone driving dangerously (or too fast) and if a car is built to go faster it will need better brakes etc. so should actually be safer at normal speeds than some shopping trolley.

This kind of attitude is a poor show and is part of blairs/ browns lets dumb down brittain and tell them what they can and can't do rather than let them think for themselves.

[stin]

AngryS3Owner said:

baggiebird said:

AngryS3Owner said:

baggiebird said:

Great story....but the Veyron is simply too fast for public roads

Why?

I think a line has to be drawn and this crosses it.

Oh missed that back in July... why does a line need to be drawn at all? We still have laws in place to stop someone driving dangerously (or too fast) and if a car is built to go faster it will need better brakes etc. so should actually be safer at normal speeds than some shopping trolley.

This kind of attitude is a poor show and is part of blairs/ browns lets dumb down britain and tell them what they can and can't do rather than let them think for themselves.

Couldn't have put it better myself!!!