RE: Project Vector is Jaguar's 'smart city' slicker

RE: Project Vector is Jaguar's 'smart city' slicker

Tuesday 18th February 2020

Project Vector is Jaguar's 'smart city' slicker

And you thought the new F-Type nose was a bold move for Jaguar...



It seems nowadays that one can't turn a page, start a conversation or, um, click on a website without more predictions for our autonomous, electric, connected future. For those of us obsessed with cars because of the independence they offer, the challenge theydemand and the thrill of a petrol engine, it can all seem a little unnerving. Especially when Jaguar sees this as the future.

This Project Vector is pitched as a solution "to today's urban mobility challenges with unparalleled interior space and flexibility in vehicle configuration." As such it can be set up for individual use, shared transport or as a commercial vehicle; it might not look it here, but the Vector is only four metres long, so ideally sized for urban errands. Battery and drivetrain gubbins under the floor is what facilitates the cavernous load area.

More broadly, the Vector is another component of JLR's Destination Zero plan, which has the lofty ambition of zero emissions, zero congestion and zero accidents. That's not just through cars, it should be said, instead a grand strategy that encompasses products, services and facilities.


Anyway, the car itself. Project Vector has been developed with the national Automotive Innovation Centre because of their additional expertise in the area. Between the two, and along with Coventry City Council, a pilot programme for the Vector is scheduled for 2021. From now until then, and for many years after, expect to hear lots more about digitalisation and urbanisation; Project Director Dr Tim Leverton has suggested how these make "connected urban mobility systems necessary and inevitable." As more and more people move to cities, and digital devices increasingly dominate our lives, it does seem somewhat inevitable (and sensible) that ride hailing, autonomy and shared, connected transport will be the future of moving around cities. A shorter commute has to be good news to everyone, right?

But it remains a shame that Jaguar's answer to the urban mobility problem has to look like something Rinspeed might exhibit at a motor show, it being known for some of the most beautiful automotive designs of the past century. Still, nobody particularly cares about how their bus, tram or tube train really looks, so perhaps that's the way to think of the Project Vector. Or, as CEO Ralf Speth would say, think of it as "precisely the brave and innovative leap forward needed to deliver on our mission." People of Coventry, the future might be coming sooner than you think...




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Rumblestripe

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2,936 posts

162 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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I think that it provokes an interesting conversation.

Firstly it looks at what we need to get from A-B, let's be honest here, that is what many people need - a method to get from A to B in comfort and as promptly as possible.

Secondly it eschews the design language necessitated by accommodating an ICE, you don't need a bump that holds the engine nor another for the fuel.

Thirdly the design is driven by function, it needs to be this shape to hold four adults, it needs to have a wheel at each corner etc.

It would be a dull day if our streets were flooded with these identiboxes but it is interesting enough to raise questions that need to be answered about how we move about in a post ICE world.

GoodCompany

306 posts

63 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Perfect transport for those who get worked up at the sight of a large SUV in the city.

NITO

1,080 posts

206 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Bring it on I say, when your daily commute is ruined by numpties driving less than half the speed limit and hesitating unnecessarily at every junction and roundabout or checking their facebook everytime they're stopped for more than 3 seconds I may as well be sat in my electric autonomous 'cube' being ferried to work while surfing the zombie web because frankly, where is the fun in driving in these conditions anyway?!

It used to be the case that you'd overtake them and then make progress, but nowadays there's an army of these zombies proceeding every overtake.

WhiteBaron

1,394 posts

226 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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I just have the vision of johnny cab from Total Recall in my head

NJJ

434 posts

80 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Oh Jaguar but where is the style? I know autonomous cars are essentially boxes on wheels but surely some style can be injected into them otherwise why buy a Jaguar and not the equivalent 'box' from Mercedes? It cannot just come down to which manufacturer will offer the better interior tech in the future although this will be a major factor.

abzmike

8,361 posts

106 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Coming to a dual carriageway in Milton Keynes soon.

Gecko1978

9,704 posts

157 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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I don't see it somhow, the reason being in london at least TFL. If my zero.emmesions driverless pod can take me from home to work then go park itself an charge up...tube drivers, station staff, bus drivers black cabs etc we don't need you anymore plus working from home (most city jobs are office based) means a lot less people using public transport.

Can't see the unions going for that

dunnoreally

961 posts

108 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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I think you could do a Jaguar autonomous pod, but it needs an interior made exclusively out of burr walnut, really thick carpets, and beige-dyed bits of cow. And it wants some kind of drinks cooler in the middle and seats that fold out into a double mattress, and at least 4 cigarette lighters.

...maybe there's a reason I'm not a car designer.

oilit

2,625 posts

178 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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for some reason this reminds me of this :


JxJ Jr.

652 posts

70 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Whenever you see a 'positive' JLR story, you need to look for the corresponding 'bad' news and sure enough here it is:
FT - "Jaguar Land Rover rushes parts out of China in suitcases"
Sky - "Coronavirus crisis: Jaguar Land Rover warns of UK production hit as it runs out of parts".

snuffy

9,748 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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NJJ said:
I know autonomous cars are essentially boxes on wheels
All cars are essentially boxes on wheels.

A1VDY

3,575 posts

127 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Far nicer looking than the new F type anyway..

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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A good looker. This pod is easier on the eye than most others popping up nowadays.

On the other hand, Vector retains a steering wheel and other driver controls. Does it feature the technologies likely to bring about level-5 autonomous operation? The interior does not appear to be formatted for frequent entrances and exits.

"McDonald's of Mobility"

For comparison, see the Cruise Origin. General Motors is the principal shareholder of Cruise along with Softbank and Honda. Current investment exceeds $4-billion.

No driver controls are provided. Lifespan is planned at 1,000,000 miles. It is autonomous today. The structure is designed to allow for substitution of the latest autonomous sensors as these become available.

Note the transit-sized scale of this vehicle (below). Apparently it will operate on non-public roads such as corporate campuses from 2022.

article here
https://techcrunch.com/2020/01/21/cruise-unveils-o...

and here
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/01/cruises-auton...







swisstoni

16,978 posts

279 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Chuck a sofa in there and some curtains.
Wake me up when we get there.

VeeFource

1,076 posts

177 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Cause of death: The deceased thought he was crossing the road behind the Vector.

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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dunnoreally said:
I think you could do a Jaguar autonomous pod, but it needs an interior made exclusively out of burr walnut, really thick carpets, and beige-dyed bits of cow. And it wants some kind of drinks cooler in the middle and seats that fold out into a double mattress, and at least 4 cigarette lighters.

...maybe there's a reason I'm not a car designer.
On the contrary! Your description is just the sort of autonomous vehicle that many of us would happily sign up for.

Just imagine:

Finally, the two components of membership in the "gin and Jags" brigade can be thoroughly combined with nary a thought. wink





FlukePlay

948 posts

145 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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This looks incredibly bland inside with all the style and comfort of a bus. If I'm not driving can I sit on a comfy sofa, maybe a Chesterfield, watch TV, maybe a pouffe to rest my feet?

Rumblestripe

Original Poster:

2,936 posts

162 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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FlukePlay said:
This looks incredibly bland inside with all the style and comfort of a bus. If I'm not driving can I sit on a comfy sofa, maybe a Chesterfield, watch TV, maybe a pouffe to rest my feet?
I believe the correct term is "homosexual"? (Might be viewed as exploitative 'n' all)

DMC2

1,834 posts

211 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Seriously though, how would you know if it was driving towards you or away from you wink

mikeg15

287 posts

200 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Hah. Notwithstanding anything else, the production version will have cheap flat ( or nearly so ) glass. Just like every car in the world now except the Koenigsegg , which has a wonderful wrap round screen.