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zakmuh

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166 posts

31 months

Thursday 7th September
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Hi,

I have this solenoid valve on my 2003 Sorento D4CB engine and it looks like it should have a hose connected to it, but it's missing. In Kia diagram (21) it shows as 'Differential Chamber Assy'. It looks similar to the EGR valve.

What is the purpose of this part?



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zakmuh

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166 posts

31 months

Friday 8th September
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I'm going to remove this unit this weekend and share some pics.

One thing though, when I pull that lever, it cut off the engine. Does that tell anything?

227bhp

5,358 posts

49 months

Friday 8th September
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Why are you going to take it off?

zakmuh

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166 posts

31 months

Friday 8th September
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As you can see, the EGR valve (far end) and the manifold are clogged up. I need to clean all these, including the intercool and the hoses.

This manifold unit is different to most of the units fitted on UK models. So I'm struggling to find a diagram/pic from someone....

227bhp

5,358 posts

49 months

Friday 8th September
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zakmuh said:
As you can see, the EGR valve (far end) and the manifold are clogged up.
No I can't see they are clogged up and you never said which is why i'm asking. Don't worry about it though, it's a recurring theme on here, we like guessing games.
If I was to make a not very educated guess i'd say there will be a type of throttle flap inside the plenum which it is actuating. I think what happens is that at certain times it closes off the fresh air so the engine induces exhaust gasses as well or instead of.

I think your engine is fitted with swirl flaps and there will be an actuator for those too, but I don't think that is it. There is a feature representation on the net somewhere by the makers, it goes through some of the technical aspects of the engine, it may be on there.

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zakmuh

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166 posts

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Friday 8th September
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Ta

Why exhaust gas is fed into the engine through the EGR valve, may I know please?

SHutchinson

1,346 posts

105 months

Friday 8th September
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To lower emissions

227bhp

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49 months

Friday 8th September
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EGR = Exhaust gas recirculation.

zakmuh

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Friday 8th September
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EGR feeds exhaust air which dont burn inside the combustion chamber, but it cools down the mixture to avoid nitric oxide forming.

So from what you're saying and what it is in my engine, the fresh air is fed all the time but EGR valve kicks in at certain pressure, like when speeding..

SHutchinson

1,346 posts

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Friday 8th September
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Like when cold.

iridebikes

63 posts

59 months

Friday 8th September
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Could well be a flap to stop the engine running on if a fault in the turbo occurs (dieseling)

zakmuh

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166 posts

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Friday 8th September
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iridebikes said:
Could well be a flap to stop the engine running on if a fault in the turbo occurs (dieseling)
Yeah that makes sense, but I couldn't find any disconnected/missing hose in any other places in the engine room confused

SHutchinson

1,346 posts

105 months

Friday 8th September
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zakmuh said:
iridebikes said:
Could well be a flap to stop the engine running on if a fault in the turbo occurs (dieseling)
Yeah that makes sense, but I couldn't find any disconnected/missing hose in any other places in the engine room confused
It isn't.

227bhp

5,358 posts

49 months

Friday 8th September
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zakmuh said:
EGR feeds exhaust air which dont burn inside the combustion chamber, but it cools down the mixture to avoid nitric oxide forming.

So from what you're saying and what it is in my engine, the fresh air is fed all the time but EGR valve kicks in at certain pressure, like when speeding..
Yes it's an anti speeding device. If you go outside of the speed limit your engine gets clogged up and slows you down.
nono Always drive within the speed limit.

tapkaJohnD

833 posts

125 months

Friday 8th September
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Does the car have cruise control?
If so, I think this is the throttle for that. There's a diaphragm inside the container hat should be conneted to the intake manifold to sense the vacuum.

J

227bhp

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Friday 8th September
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tapkaJohnD said:
Does the car have cruise control?
If so, I think this is the throttle for that. There's a diaphragm inside the container hat should be conneted to the intake manifold to sense the vacuum.

J
How would that work?

zakmuh

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166 posts

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Friday 8th September
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SHutchinson said:
It isn't.
I just had a look and there is a flap inside and when I push that rod towards the engine, obviously that flap closes and then engine cuts off, which means...if that valve had a hose connected and vacuum activate, it will shut the engine down.

zakmuh

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tapkaJohnD said:
Does the car have cruise control?
If so, I think this is the throttle for that. There's a diaphragm inside the container hat should be conneted to the intake manifold to sense the vacuum.

J
Yes, the car has cruise control option but it's not working at the moment due to faulty speedometer speed sensor.

I can't quite understand how this would relate to cruise control though confused

Steve_D

11,109 posts

179 months

Sunday 10th September
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zakmuh said:
tapkaJohnD said:
Does the car have cruise control?
If so, I think this is the throttle for that. There's a diaphragm inside the container hat should be conneted to the intake manifold to sense the vacuum.

J
Yes, the car has cruise control option but it's not working at the moment due to faulty speedometer speed sensor.

I can't quite understand how this would relate to cruise control though confused
There may be other bits missing along with the pipe. Missing (or somewhere else in the engine bay) will be a vacuum control valve driven by the cruise control. It will adjust the vacuum going to the unit in your photo which controls the throttle setting.

Steve

zakmuh

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166 posts

31 months

Sunday 10th September
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Thanks

As it's drive-by-wire (DBW) system, CC is controlled electronically. It's a known problem for this model and it needs is replacing the speed sensor at the back of the transfer case

http://www.underhoodservice.com/tech-tip-kia-inter...