Can a slipping clutch fix itself?

Can a slipping clutch fix itself?

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Sensibleboy

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1,143 posts

125 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Bought a VW CC 2.0 TSI yesterday and on the 170 mile journey home when accelerating to pass lorries on the A1 the clutch was slipping. It would do this on demand.

Tonight I took the car out again and when warmed up properly gave it full throttle once in 6th gear and again the car would accelerate a bit then the revs would start to shoot up again without accelerating the car.

As soon as I got the camera out to record this the car started to behave and in any gear it would accelerate cleanly.

The car is a 2013 manual with 17k miles on it and is ex motability if that makes any difference. So I'm wondering if maybe a life of gentle use could mean something wasn't bedded in properly.

The clutch is light and smooth in operation.

Mike335i

5,003 posts

102 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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I had exactly the same symptoms in my mapped Leon TFSI, it would slip slightly when cold out, but never in the warm. Never got to the bottom of it as it simply stopped doing it after a while.

stevieturbo

17,258 posts

247 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Sensibleboy said:
Bought a VW CC 2.0 TSI yesterday and on the 170 mile journey home when accelerating to pass lorries on the A1 the clutch was slipping. It would do this on demand.

Tonight I took the car out again and when warmed up properly gave it full throttle once in 6th gear and again the car would accelerate a bit then the revs would start to shoot up again without accelerating the car.

As soon as I got the camera out to record this the car started to behave and in any gear it would accelerate cleanly.

The car is a 2013 manual with 17k miles on it and is ex motability if that makes any difference. So I'm wondering if maybe a life of gentle use could mean something wasn't bedded in properly.

The clutch is light and smooth in operation.
Never assume a particular owner or mileage means gentle use. If anything such an owner could be the most abusive driver ever in terms of a clutch.

Sensibleboy

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1,143 posts

125 months

Saturday 30th December 2017
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Interesting. After driving it today I noticed how high the clutch was biting compared to our other car with same engine and gearbox.

Chances are the clutch is on its last legs. I can't believe how expensive clutch kits are for these cars.

E-bmw

9,199 posts

152 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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Pretty much most cars these days have dual mass flywheels & lots of places will only change the clutch & dual mass flywheel together & that means many are now £600+ with lots being much nearer to £1000 + labour of course!!!!

CarsOrBikes

1,135 posts

184 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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Motability means it is likely that it was one more car that got 3,000+ rpm pulling away and the clutch is dead, if you haven't already knackered the flywheel it will be wrecked soon if you keep using it, if undamaged you might get away with not having to renew that, that type of driver is less likely to drive aggressively which is the main thing that kills DMF's.

Sensibleboy

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1,143 posts

125 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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Well the garage that sold the car have offered to pick the car up. The only way to give me any confidence in it's long term reliability is a new clutch.

I'm sure they'll want to fix it as cheaply as possible so let's hope the flywheel is ok.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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Sensibleboy said:
Well the garage that sold the car have offered to pick the car up. The only way to give me any confidence in it's long term reliability is a new clutch.

I'm sure they'll want to fix it as cheaply as possible so let's hope the flywheel is ok.
I'd change the flywheel as a matter of habit.
Pretty cheap if you buy from Euros with a discount code.

Wait Here Until Green Light Shows

15,220 posts

200 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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I've replaced plenty of clutches and never needed to change the flywheel. They've usually been caught pretty early though.
Sounds like the garage is doing the right thing in collecting the car...so it'll be nice to have the piece of mind of a new clutch.

stevieturbo

17,258 posts

247 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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Wait Here Until Green Light Shows said:
I've replaced plenty of clutches and never needed to change the flywheel. They've usually been caught pretty early though.
Sounds like the garage is doing the right thing in collecting the car...so it'll be nice to have the piece of mind of a new clutch.
You mustnt have changed any cars with a DMF then, as very very rarely are they in good order to be re-used.

Wait Here Until Green Light Shows

15,220 posts

200 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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stevieturbo said:
Wait Here Until Green Light Shows said:
I've replaced plenty of clutches and never needed to change the flywheel. They've usually been caught pretty early though.
Sounds like the garage is doing the right thing in collecting the car...so it'll be nice to have the piece of mind of a new clutch.
You mustnt have changed any cars with a DMF then, as very very rarely are they in good order to be re-used.
I did a Hyundai Coupe V6 a couple of years ago and I changed the DMF to a solid mass flywheel - didn't really make a lot of difference and one less thing to break.

Bennachie

1,090 posts

151 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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On diesels in particular a non DMF flywheel on a specced DMF engine can destroy the gearbox (long term) with harmonic vibration unless a suitably sprung clutch driven plate is used............

nigxl

11 posts

128 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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Does the 2.0 Tsi have a DMF?? isn't the Tsi a petrol.

E-bmw

9,199 posts

152 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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nigxl said:
Does the 2.0 Tsi have a DMF?? isn't the Tsi a petrol.
I have no idea on this engine/car combination specifically but many many petrol cars also have DMFs.

You aren't thinking DPF are you?

sgtBerbatov

2,597 posts

81 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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E-bmw said:
nigxl said:
Does the 2.0 Tsi have a DMF?? isn't the Tsi a petrol.
I have no idea on this engine/car combination specifically but many many petrol cars also have DMFs.

You aren't thinking DPF are you?
Why would he be on about DPF's?

Dual Mass Flywheels are a pain in the arse! Worst thing to ever happen to cars, well, that and the DPF.

My 3008 had a failing clutch and would do what the OP described. It required a new clutch and flywheel, the mechanic couldn't understand how I was able to drive it the way it all was. Cost me £600, which is about £150 less than what it should've been.

E-bmw

9,199 posts

152 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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He said a tsi doesn't have a DMF so I was just checking he didn't mean DPF, calm down!

annodomini2

6,861 posts

251 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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Quick Google search suggests they are dmf

E-bmw

9,199 posts

152 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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I know that.

sgtBerbatov

2,597 posts

81 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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E-bmw said:
He said a tsi doesn't have a DMF so I was just checking he didn't mean DPF, calm down!
I wasn't excited over the DMF/DPF comment. But I refuse to calm down over how much of an arse ache DMF's are.

stevieturbo

17,258 posts

247 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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sgtBerbatov said:
I wasn't excited over the DMF/DPF comment. But I refuse to calm down over how much of an arse ache DMF's are.
But allegedly they make our cars so much smoother and better !!