Broken Crankshaft KIA SOUL 2013

[Gazt70]

I'm after a bit of advice please

On Christmas Eve my Kia Soul broke down and I had to have it recovered

This was diagnosed as a broken Crankshaft.

The previous year the Big End Bearing had failed due to much oil resulting in a major repair carried out by highly rated independent garage

The repair was not a warranty job due to the expensive error of having too much oil in the engine.

Since the repair in February 2017 I have had 12000 miles of trouble free motoring until Christmas Eve.

Obviously I am a bit disappointed that the after paying £2500 for an engine repair and just over 10 months later the crankshaft has broken!!

Can I ask do you think the crankshaft would break because of the damage done last year or have I just been unlucky

Your thoughts would be appreciated as I am at the point of selling the car as a non-runner at a great loss

[paintman]

Just how much oil was in for it to be given as the alleged cause of the original problem?

What warranty was given by the repairing garage?

What have they said about it?

How many of the big-end bearings had failed?

Was the crankshaft damaged at the same time and either replaced or reground?

[Gazt70]

The repair work carried out was as below

Remove the engine and crankshaft. Reffited crankshaft with new bearings

Removed cylinder head and no 4 piston

Fitted new Conrod. Refitted piston and cylinder head.

Refitted engine and gearbox. Refilled with oils, coolant and bled systems

The Crankshaft did have a regrind

[GreenV8S]

Bent conrod suggests the engine ingested oil froth. This could have damaged the crank when it bent the conrod. I'd expect the people repairing the engine to inspect the crank carefully for damage, which would include cracking. They should have warranted the whole of the 'fixed' engine since it was their responsibility to identify all the impacted components.

Given the mileage you may be out of the warranty now, in which case I suspect you're out of luck. But if the warranty still applies then I'd expect subsequent crank failure in normal use to be covered by the warranty.

[The Wookie]

It’s entirely possible and arguably likely to be related to the previous failure, proving it would be a different matter unfortunately, particularly 12 months on as it could also be argued that whatever defect was in the crankshaft would have been impossible for them to predict or detect.

If the independent garage is well regarded then they may offer you goodwill such as charging only for parts for the repair, the only way to find out is to pick up the phone or go and have a chat with them.

[HJG]

IF it is a genuine crankshaft failure then given the mileage since the repair I would suggest a fatigue failure perhaps initiated by unintended 'notching' of the journal fillet during the regrinding process. Be very interesting to see the actual component.

[Gazt70]

Thanks for your replies

The garage that fixed the engine has diagnosed the crankshaft and charged me £200 for the labour so I don't think there will be any goodwill there

They say best solution be to buy a re-con engine and fit that

But I'm afraid my money is not unlimited and I'm probably going to have to sell it as a non-runner

[Krikkit]

I'd look for a written-off one to take the engine from. The costs will be high, but you're sure to take a rinse if you sell it as a non-runner.

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[227bhp]

Not much you can do really, chalk it up to experience and if it was you who over filled it look after your cars a bit better in the future.

[Gazt70]

Thanks for all your replies

Can anyone recommend the best place to sell a non-runner??

[227bhp]

Ebay, Gumtree.