Did you always replace the long life engine oil filter?

Did you always replace the long life engine oil filter?

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han95

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7 posts

56 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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We know the vw "long life engine oil VW 507 00" service schedule can be up to 18,000 miles. But some people said the long life engine oil must work with the "long life engine oil filter". Otherwise the filter will fail before the engine oil due.

The long life filter is the zig zag like below picture. The vw main dealership also use this kind of filter.

Is that ture? I found like BOSCH MANN filter only provide linear tyre filer.

How to choose the best one for vw car?


Coilspring

577 posts

63 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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No such thing as long life or short life oil filter (in that type).

How much is a filter? How difficult is it to replace ? Why wouldn't you ?

Oilchange

8,447 posts

260 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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I’d change both every 10k or so. bks to the manufacturers.

E-bmw

9,192 posts

152 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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As above, don't believe all you read about long service schedules.

Stick with good quality oil of the correct grade & filter every 10k/year & you will never have an issue related to oil protection.

stevieturbo

17,256 posts

247 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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Oilchange said:
I’d change both every 10k or so. bks to the manufacturers.
With a name like that...you would lol.

And so would I. 18k is a stupid long interval.

And OEM filters are more likely to be the wavy design vs aftermarket, but I'm sure both are just as capable.

Peter3442

421 posts

68 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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I can't see what's the advantage of the wavy type, unless it's less sensitive to misalignment or something during installation in a factory production line.

cuprabob

14,560 posts

214 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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Peter3442 said:
I can't see what's the advantage of the wavy type, unless it's less sensitive to misalignment or something during installation in a factory production line.
Larger surface area to catch crud

99hjhm

426 posts

186 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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cuprabob said:
Larger surface area to catch crud
Yes, dealer probably just whacks on what on the shelf in parts if there really is such thing as a long life filter.

Long life servicing is a sales gimmick, with so many cars now leased I guess it’s almost a cost saving too.

han95

Original Poster:

7 posts

56 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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99hjhm said:
Yes, dealer probably just whacks on what on the shelf in parts if there really is such thing as a long life filter.

Long life servicing is a sales gimmick, with so many cars now leased I guess it’s almost a cost saving too.
Thank you for your reply. The longlife 18,000 miles service need some precondition, from vw said:
Fixed Service (Time and Distance)
We recommend this service if you are likely to drive less than 10,000* miles in a year, and if you tend to drive in the following way:


Mainly city centre driving, short journeys with frequent cold starts
High engine loading activities, e.g. frequent hill climbs, driving with your vehicle fully loaded and towing
Uneconomical driving using high rpms with heavy acceleration and heavy braking.

Flexible Service Regime (LongLife Service)
We recommend this service if you are likely to drive more than 25 miles a day, and if you tend to drive in the following way:


Regular long distance driving
Driving at a constant speed with minimum vehicle and engine loading, and minimal towing
Economical driving



I think if always long distance motorway mileage, that will be fit for. Is that right or sales gimmick? would you explain more?

Coilspring

577 posts

63 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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han95 said:
Thank you for your reply. The longlife 18,000 miles service need some precondition, from vw said:
Fixed Service (Time and Distance)
We recommend this service if you are likely to drive less than 10,000* miles in a year, and if you tend to drive in the following way:


Mainly city centre driving, short journeys with frequent cold starts
High engine loading activities, e.g. frequent hill climbs, driving with your vehicle fully loaded and towing
Uneconomical driving using high rpms with heavy acceleration and heavy braking.

Flexible Service Regime (LongLife Service)
We recommend this service if you are likely to drive more than 25 miles a day, and if you tend to drive in the following way:


Regular long distance driving
Driving at a constant speed with minimum vehicle and engine loading, and minimal towing
Economical driving



I think if always long distance motorway mileage, that will be fit for. Is that right or sales gimmick? would you explain more?
Lots more in depth answers will follow, I am sure.

But 2 main points.

1 there is no such thing as a long life oil filter (of this type/model). So extending the service interval places extraordinary demands on the standard filter. Ask yourself what does the oil filter do?

2. How much is a replacement engine? How much is an oil and filter change?

What are you trying to save ?

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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han95 said:
Thank you for your reply. The longlife 18,000 miles service need some precondition, from vw said:
Fixed Service (Time and Distance)
We recommend this service if you are likely to drive less than 10,000* miles in a year, and if you tend to drive in the following way:


Mainly city centre driving, short journeys with frequent cold starts
High engine loading activities, e.g. frequent hill climbs, driving with your vehicle fully loaded and towing
Uneconomical driving using high rpms with heavy acceleration and heavy braking.

Flexible Service Regime (LongLife Service)
We recommend this service if you are likely to drive more than 25 miles a day, and if you tend to drive in the following way:


Regular long distance driving
Driving at a constant speed with minimum vehicle and engine loading, and minimal towing
Economical driving



I think if always long distance motorway mileage, that will be fit for. Is that right or sales gimmick? would you explain more?
That sounds like a very specific and intelligent approach if people actually take note of it, which is rather unlikely.
Oil changes are a case of how old the car is and do you give a toss about who has the car after you?
If it's new, you're only going to keep it less than say 50k miles and you don't give a st about it after that (this is 95% of motorists) then use the extended service intervals. If not then change it more often.
It has to be said that on the whole modern engines, oil and filters are more durable and can cope better under certain circumstances, but human nature often intervenes to mess things up.