Engine overheated and died. Possible to un-seize?
Discussion
vtchequers said:
It is an old Voyager Startech (04) 2.4 CRD. I don't think they put the 2.4 in the other Voyagers.
I can't find a 2.4 anywhere for this car. I think my only option would be to have the pistons and sleeves replaced.
According to wiki there never was a 2.4 CRD, it was 2.5.I can't find a 2.4 anywhere for this car. I think my only option would be to have the pistons and sleeves replaced.
There are loads of engines on ebay, but in honesty i would just scrap it get another minivan. They aren't know for reliability.
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-Chrysler-Voyager-2...
vtchequers said:
stevieturbo said:
What's an accord got to do with a Chrysler ?
Really....it sounds like an old vehicle, probably real world limited value. And if he really thinks it's rare....possibly a known good engine will also be rare ( albeit it's probably not that rare )
Sadly all too often threads like this where someone needs an engine replaced by a garage almost always go the same way.
Either the replacement engine is f
ked, or the garage fks things up, or the engine was sold as the same and was different and everyone involved gets screwed.
Unless you have a known trustworthy and reputable mechanic...which by the fact you're asking silly things here seems unlikely...give up on it. Someone may want it for parts to help cut your losses.
And learn from it and don't drive on next time til everything is destroyed.
It is an old Voyager Startech (04) 2.4 CRD. I don't think they put the 2.4 in the other Voyagers.Really....it sounds like an old vehicle, probably real world limited value. And if he really thinks it's rare....possibly a known good engine will also be rare ( albeit it's probably not that rare )
Sadly all too often threads like this where someone needs an engine replaced by a garage almost always go the same way.
Either the replacement engine is f
ked, or the garage fks things up, or the engine was sold as the same and was different and everyone involved gets screwed.Unless you have a known trustworthy and reputable mechanic...which by the fact you're asking silly things here seems unlikely...give up on it. Someone may want it for parts to help cut your losses.
And learn from it and don't drive on next time til everything is destroyed.
I can't find a 2.4 anywhere for this car. I think my only option would be to have the pistons and sleeves replaced.
vtchequers said:
It is an old Voyager Startech (04) 2.4 CRD. I don't think they put the 2.4 in the other Voyagers.
I can't find a 2.4 anywhere for this car. I think my only option would be to have the pistons and sleeves replaced.
In your expert opinion ?I can't find a 2.4 anywhere for this car. I think my only option would be to have the pistons and sleeves replaced.
Cut your losses before it costs you a fortune.
As others have said there's not a lot of information here to go on to diagnose what's wrong. It sounds like it's comprehensively knackered, though without knowing where exactly the coolant has gone it's hard to be sure exactly how bad it is. Have you taken the plugs out and tried to crank it by hand? If it turns over freely you could hope for a million to one chance, refill the fluids and start it from a known good battery. I doubt it's going to be a happy ending though...
A quick look on ebay suggests that these aren't worth a fortune, I'd suggest to have the engine rebuilt/replaced would be throwing good money after bad. Cut your losses and weigh it in. You could dismantle it yourself if you have the time and inclination but can't imagine there's a strong market for parts for them so could take you forever to break it.
A quick look on ebay suggests that these aren't worth a fortune, I'd suggest to have the engine rebuilt/replaced would be throwing good money after bad. Cut your losses and weigh it in. You could dismantle it yourself if you have the time and inclination but can't imagine there's a strong market for parts for them so could take you forever to break it.
HustleRussell said:
dhutch said:
the first port of call is an backstreet garage that undertake inexpensive engine rebuilds.
[shudder]Daniel
dhutch said:
Few upmarket garages with fit an eBay engine for you.
Daniel
No sensible mechanic would, unless it is clearly noted from the outset that any issues with that engine are the responsibility and at cost to the customer.Daniel
If the garage however chooses to supply/fit via that route, then all liabilities are on them.
stevieturbo said:
No sensible mechanic would, unless it is clearly noted from the outset that any issues with that engine are the responsibility and at cost to the customer.
If the garage however chooses to supply/fit via that route, then all liabilities are on them.
Indeed, although my point is, most won't at all even with caveats, and even fewer will source one for you.If the garage however chooses to supply/fit via that route, then all liabilities are on them.
However in the game of terminal engine damage on an inexpensive used car, the only sensible option is a suitable used engine. Which then means your options become limited to those willing and able to fit a used engine.
I had a good relationship with a BMW breakers near me who also did work on used BMWs, was a life saver really. Free OBD diagnostics, and a huge stock of used parts he was willing to fit and test, as well as huge knowledge of the vehicles and a willingness to find a problem and solve it. A failed parking sensor or lambda become £40 for diagnosis, replacement parts, and labour. He once fitted me a top hose at 7pm for £15 half an hour after it failed, which allowed me to go to work the following morning. I put a new one on at the next opportunity but where else can you get that service. Not even BMW or the AA will do that.
Daniel
Just as aside, the engine pictured looks like a Jeep or LDV engine. Typically these are reasonably expensive at least £500, usually more. The 2.8 will also fit.
With fitting, that can't be less than £1100 or so, with quite a lot of hassle. Surely there's a Galaxy or something out there for that kind of money. £100 for the car, total budget £1200, and that's quite a respectable shed.
Just thinking.
With fitting, that can't be less than £1100 or so, with quite a lot of hassle. Surely there's a Galaxy or something out there for that kind of money. £100 for the car, total budget £1200, and that's quite a respectable shed.
Just thinking.
dhutch said:
However in the game of terminal engine damage on an inexpensive used car, the only sensible option is a suitable used engine.
Daniel
Only sensible option is scrap it or find someone to buy it and let it be their problem to change enginesDaniel
If a good version is worth little...it makes no sense throwing a ton of money at it.
vtchequers said:
Is it possible to unseize this?
The story-
Was heading back from a round trip to Manchester from Leicester.
I was on the A50 heading toward Uttoxeter (on the way back to Leicester) when the car decided to die.
I managed to make it to a layby.
Pulled the hood and there was steam coming from the engine.
The engine temp gauge was on the red and the coolant tank was empty! the oil light was also on even though the oil level was between min and max. maybe a faulty oil pump?
The coolant tank was empty!
Called out the RAC who trailered the car back to Leicester.
Tried starting the car the next day and all I got was a clunk.
I once owned a Vauxhall Zafira MK1 that went into limp mode because of a lack of engine oil!!
what did the RAC man tell you?The story-
Was heading back from a round trip to Manchester from Leicester.
I was on the A50 heading toward Uttoxeter (on the way back to Leicester) when the car decided to die.
I managed to make it to a layby.
Pulled the hood and there was steam coming from the engine.
The engine temp gauge was on the red and the coolant tank was empty! the oil light was also on even though the oil level was between min and max. maybe a faulty oil pump?
The coolant tank was empty!
Called out the RAC who trailered the car back to Leicester.
Tried starting the car the next day and all I got was a clunk.
I once owned a Vauxhall Zafira MK1 that went into limp mode because of a lack of engine oil!!
The Spruce Goose said:
According to wiki there never was a 2.4 CRD, it was 2.5.
There are loads of engines on ebay, but in honesty i would just scrap it get another minivan. They aren't know for reliability.
225
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-Chrysler-Voyager-2...
It looks like you may be right!There are loads of engines on ebay, but in honesty i would just scrap it get another minivan. They aren't know for reliability.
225
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-Chrysler-Voyager-2...
vtchequers said:
I know general consensus is to scrap it and buy another cheap 7 seater, but what problems would the replacement have? Has anyone, in the history of buying used cars, ever bought one with no problems?
I won't take it to a garage. I'm actually planning on fixing it myself!
Why not? Your original post suggests you're from Leicester, so you won't be going anywhere for a while!I won't take it to a garage. I'm actually planning on fixing it myself!
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