Clutch question (on a Mk1 Golf GTi)

Clutch question (on a Mk1 Golf GTi)

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olly

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2,174 posts

284 months

Thursday 18th December 2003
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Ever since we've owned the Golf, the clutch has always been slightly heavy (5spd G-box), which I just put down to mileage (184000 when we bought it 3 years ago).

Last week, the clutch pedal stopped returning all the way, so at the weekend I replaced the cable with a brand new VW item (once I had the old one off, it turned out the cable had started freying).

So, with new clutch cable installed (and lightly oiled), clutch felt no worse/better than it did before (car is now up to 233000 miles). However, as of Tuesday (having done about 250 miles in the car) it feels like I'm picking up a stack of bricks with my left foot (pedal has got VERY heavy). I have slackened off the cable & it still runs very sloothly through the housing.

Any suggestions as to what could be making the clutch so heavy ? Could the release bearing given up the ghost, or is the clutch just telling me that after 233000 miles, it's had enough !

deltaf

6,806 posts

253 months

Thursday 18th December 2003
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Clutch is nackered mate!
Easy enough to replace, will take a good afternoon to do it if youre alone though.
HTH.

olly

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2,174 posts

284 months

Thursday 18th December 2003
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Thanks for the reply.

I thought that might be the answer !

Oh well, it's had a fairly hard life during the 50,000 miles we've done in it, and g*d knows what the previous owners had done to it in the other 184,000 miles ! As far as we know, it's still the original clutch too !!!!!

trooper1212

9,456 posts

252 months

Thursday 18th December 2003
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If you need a hand then I'm going to be at Jo's for new year. I'm sure we could pop round and drink your beer whilst giving helpful comments.

Finally found the problem with my Golf, the vernier pulley has slipped so the cam is out of whack. The local tuners are wary of touching it due to the big valves, race head etc... So I need to get it back to bristol at some point!

Still, at least the clutch works

olly

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2,174 posts

284 months

Thursday 18th December 2003
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Many hands make light work , so thanks for the offer ! Sach Clutch kit is only about £50+VAT, so it's not the end of the world.....

So in other words your timing is WAY out ! And you can't even drive it back to Bristol.... I don't know why they woun't do it - it's only getting the timing right... ???? Oh well, at least you know what the problem is !

Clutch still works ok (for now), it's just about twice as heavy as the Cerbera's !

deltaf

6,806 posts

253 months

Thursday 18th December 2003
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A peice of advice Olly.
When you get the gearbox out, if you look inside the bellhousing where the clutch actuating pushrod goes thru the splined input shaft, theres a wee oil seal in the centre is a wee oil seal. Replace it as they often leak afterwards.
Dont forget to do the thrust bearing as well!

z_chromozone

1,436 posts

249 months

Thursday 18th December 2003
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deltaf said:
A peice of advice Olly.
When you get the gearbox out, if you look inside the bellhousing where the clutch actuating pushrod goes thru the splined input shaft, theres a wee oil seal in the centre is a wee oil seal. Replace it as they often leak afterwards.
Dont forget to do the thrust bearing as well!


May also want to check the plate that the pushrod pushes, I have seen the rod drill a hole right the way through before.

Z

olly

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2,174 posts

284 months

Thursday 18th December 2003
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Thanks deltaf & z chromozone ! Was reading the Haynes manual last night (as you do !) & it mentioned the oil seal (but a 2nd person saying the same thing means it's well worth doing). And I've seen the results of said drilled hole ! Apparantly is happens if you rest your foot on the clutch pedal, rather than taking your foot off completely.....

You 2 have both done this before by the sounds of things !

deltaf

6,806 posts

253 months

Thursday 18th December 2003
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Yup on a few occasions!

olly

Original Poster:

2,174 posts

284 months

Friday 19th December 2003
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Jolly good - if I get stuck, I know who to ask !

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

251 months

Sunday 21st December 2003
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Before you go taking the clutch apart why not grease the clutch pedal pivot or oil it with WD40. That may be where the friction is. It can't hurt and will be cheap to do.

olly

Original Poster:

2,174 posts

284 months

Friday 23rd January 2004
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Got my local garage to do the clutch over the new year, as I ran out of time & needed the car ASAP. Clutch is now working fine.....

BUT, it is still fairly heavy (nothing like as bad as before it was done, but heavier than I remember it being 5,000 miles ago), but after sitting in traffic for a while, it gets lovely & light ? If you stay in stop/start traffic, it stays light, but pretty soon after getting back up to speed (and presumably it cooling down), it returns to it's heavier state.

Any suggestions (I suspect it might be the bearing that pushes the rod through the box), or shall I take it back to the garage that did the work ?

deltaf

6,806 posts

253 months

Friday 23rd January 2004
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Does sound like something heating up and freeing off dosent it?
Dunno what to suggest...
It could be the pivot point on the clutch lever arm (where the cable connects...the pivots the other end of the lever).
It could be the thrust bearing...but it should have really been changed..

olly

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2,174 posts

284 months

Friday 23rd January 2004
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Might try greasing the pitov point tomorrow & go for a drive & see if it's any better.

If thats no good, I'll call the agrage & get them to have a look at it.

Thanks

numbnuts

602 posts

248 months

Monday 2nd February 2004
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They used to suffer with the cable braking through the bulk head years ago.