bent conrod

[Boosted LS1]

spend said:

Mike is always perfectly articulate when describing his ailments:

Ohhh, no he isn't.

[Holst]

philpalmer said:

Thanks for all the answers.

When I collected the car I had already paid. The original seller was very clear about the fact he needed to be paid straight away. He has a 100% feedback so this was one of the reasons I bid. He was moving house and seemed a genuine chap.
I wish he had mentioned the vibration problem. Like a typical english person I didn't complain though. Perhaps I should have.
As soon as I drove the car, I knew there was a problem. However I am not mechanically minded and assumed (wrongly) it was a case of the tracking off or something. The next day I booked the car into our local garage. They do all our cars and are very good. They did a service like i asked for. I also asked if they would investigate the vibration problem. A day later I got a call saying they had driven the car and thought it was too slow and they thought the car the slowness and vibration problem may be linked. It runs fine. The vibration happens when you start the car. Anyway they had the car for a week. They think the car has been driven through heavy water (although the seller denied it) as they found water in the air filter.

They haven't given me a full diagnosis but at worse its a bent conrod (which is £250-300 to fix). I did get some quotes for a new engine and the cheapest one was £450 but then there is also fitting (£200) so its just not worth it for me to fix the car. This car was supposed to be a surprise present for our daughter. Its turned into a complete nightmare.

I have now bought another car (a Daihatsu Terios) from a different local garage and borrowed the money from the mother in law to do so! There is no guarantee the Terios will be better but I get a warranty this time and if anything goes wrong I can just take it back.

The result is I have a car (Seat) which could be fixed. But I also want the vehicle to be a surprise for our daughter and not "Aby we have got you a car and by the way, it's at the garage for the next 26 days!"

The Seat Arosa is currently back on ebay... currently at a massive £100 - so a £730 loss if it sells. I tried contacting ebay but they said I had no comeback.

Im sorry to hear this story Phil.

I also dont trust the garage at all.
They can probably tell that you dont understand the nature of the problem and have just taken a guess in the hope they once you pay up they can fix it. If there first estimate is too low they will just ask for more so they cant lose.

Before you sell the seat it might be worth taking it to another garage to get another opinion.
I would bet that if you take it somewhere else they wont diagnose a bent conrod!!

Good luck with the Terios.

Edited by Holst on Monday 7th December 13:31

[Jack_and_MLE]

stevieturbo said:

Jack_and_MLE said:

After all that who could rebuilt the bottom end of my K?

DVA is on the list but he is booked until March

Any other recomendations?

Jack

Im confused. You havent posted in this thread before, so what are you referring to ?

I was refereing to a previous post about who to trust or not trust.

Or maybe I have been taking those type painkillers (again) for my back pain which make you fell high, cannot realy remember now!

[Malonefts]

I drove through a puddle engine stopped but now is running again.. it's smokey until engine warms up .. is this a bent conrod ?

[Boosted LS1]

You would have to have hydrolocked the cylinder to bend a conrod. To answer your question, I've no idea. You may have been lucky and just wetted the spark plugs.

[Malonefts]

I took heater plugs out An water came out An car started no problem.. smokey now until car heats up .. then drives perfect with a little noise from engine

[Mr2Mike]

It's quite possible to bend a conrod through ingesting water. This lowers the compression ratio and typical causes rough running with a cold engine. A compression test should tell you one way or the other.

[fatjon]

stevieturbo said:

bertelli_1 said:

Pumaracing said:

Most mechanics can barely replace external engine parts at random and usually to no good effect, have almost zero knowledge of how an engine actually works internally,

A bit harsh I feel.

Sounds perfectly true to me.

Also fits with my experience.

[CarsOrBikes]

At a guess if it only vibrates on start up I'd be suspecting a glow plug issue, or leaking/defective injector if there is excess smoke too perhaps, if clean then the DMF. A bent rod would cause a regular miss. A DMF can too but not always.